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Old 06-13-2022, 01:20 AM
 
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The State of the Union address of 1859.



The language used exudes in tones and platitudes....encompassing distinction in feeling, while conveying information rather slowly. The top selling book of the year was a Tale of Two Cities, which I'll admit, I didn't find particularly appealing, though I enjoyed other Dickens novels.



There needs to be a balance, of course. Authenticity can be thrown jarringly aside if Madam Dupree (I forget) suddenly speaks of wanting some hella tight vengeance. Yet it must always be balanced with the intended audience.
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Old 06-13-2022, 07:10 AM
 
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The State of the Union address of 1859.



The language used exudes in tones and platitudes....encompassing distinction in feeling, while conveying information rather slowly. The top selling book of the year was a Tale of Two Cities, which I'll admit, I didn't find particularly appealing, though I enjoyed other Dickens novels.



There needs to be a balance, of course. Authenticity can be thrown jarringly aside if Madam Dupree (I forget) suddenly speaks of wanting some hella tight vengeance. Yet it must always be balanced with the intended audience.
Perfect, thank you for the SOTU address.
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Old 06-13-2022, 08:30 AM
 
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When Deadwood was airing, I remember reading that the writers did use language that was more modern down to the extremely colorful vulgarities that the characters used. The reasoning was that if they did use period-appropriate language, it would seem quaint, old-timey, even harmless and might take the viewer out of the mindset that these were vulgar, unrefined, often dangerous people.
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Old 06-13-2022, 08:31 AM
 
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I notice this all the time. Most recently, a character in a book set in the 40's said something along the lines of " I so need to do" such and such.

I hate the way people use "so" that way and this jumped out at me Perhaps people used "so" in that way back then but I've only noticed the prevalence the past few years and wonder where it came from. Rather, what TV show it came from.
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Old 06-13-2022, 08:56 AM
 
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Hmm, I don't notice it so much, but I do think that John Barth was a MASTER of using period-appropriate language in his Sot Weed Factor, which was set in the 1680s–90s in London and colonial Maryland. Great book!
I have not heard of this, but I am looking at things to read now that my life is kind of on hold due to caregiving. Thanks!
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Old 06-13-2022, 08:59 AM
 
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I notice this all the time. Most recently, a character in a book set in the 40's said something along the lines of " I so need to do" such and such.

I hate the way people use "so" that way and this jumped out at me Perhaps people used "so" in that way back then but I've only noticed the prevalence the past few years and wonder where it came from. Rather, what TV show it came from.
Good one.

Even saying "I need to do XYZ" instead of "I have to do..." would not have been in use in the 40s. Although, that may have been in use regionally. The first time I heard someone use that was in the 80s, in Texas, and then not long after it made its way to the NYC regional area.
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Old 06-14-2022, 04:19 AM
 
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In one season of Stranger Things, which is set mostly in the 1980s, Steve says he loves KFC. Problem is, KFC wasn't called KFC back in the '80s -- it was Kentucky Fried Chicken back then. As soon as I saw it I went online and saw that a bunch of people had noticed and written about it!
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:08 AM
 
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far out man.......that's heavy..
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:17 AM
 
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In one season of Stranger Things, which is set mostly in the 1980s, Steve says he loves KFC. Problem is, KFC wasn't called KFC back in the '80s -- it was Kentucky Fried Chicken back then. As soon as I saw it I went online and saw that a bunch of people had noticed and written about it!
People still called it KFC before they officially rebranded, though. That's not a huge anachronism.
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:35 AM
 
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People still called it KFC before they officially rebranded, though. That's not a huge anachronism.
Of course this is anecdotal, but I don't know of ANYONE who called it KFC until they rebranded and that was in the '90s. I grew up with Kentucky Fried Chicken and that's what everyone called it ("Kentucky Fried Chicken, we do chicken right!" ). When I checked online after I heard "KFC" in the show, I found a zillion posts that said the same thing.
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