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Why God cannot exist!

Posted 02-25-2013 at 07:46 AM by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy

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That shyster, Dinesh D'Souza, in a debate claims that why, he and other Christians go beyond the Bible for morality! Haughty John Haught preaches that why, the message of that anthology is not morality but hope? Where is that hope in murdering the first born of the Egyptians or in the myth of Hell. What are the good metaphors that he, D'Souza, John Shelby Spong and Leo Booth find in such twaddle?
Errantists [non-fundamentalists] double-talk as well as inerrantists, and Prof. Irwin Cory makes
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Covenant morality for humanity- the presumption of humanism

Posted 02-12-2013 at 04:57 PM by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy

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What do you advocate to get people to behave? What is your moral code? How do you ground it ontologically?
I ground mine in our evolved moral sense, our human nature. This sense requires no divine input. No progressive divine morality drives its refinement but our own trial and error- our discernment about how consequences help or harm sentient beings.
No holy books led us to condemn slavery; indeed, the Bible endorses it! We humanists, including those religious who search what is best
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Why God cannot exist!

Posted 02-12-2013 at 02:38 PM by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy

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Were the parameters such that no form of life existed, would that show that God favored no form or would it be due to Leucippus' necessity? I find that necessity, including randomness, explains why life arose: the conditions that natural selections and drift and other forces used to cause it to arise need no divine boss.
Mechanism, not teleology-intent-orthogenesis-vitalism- explains the how and the - why. We need no supernatural, superstitious, supercilious why- that argument from personal
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Why God cannot exist!

Posted 01-28-2013 at 08:48 PM by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy

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Nozzferrahhyoo, I thank you and others for telling theists that they err!
Carneades' atelic argument notes that all teleological arguments- fine-tuning- probability, to design and from reason - beg the question of divinely directed outcomes.
My teleonomic argues that science finds no such outcomes, thereby ruling God out as that Grand Designer, Creator and all referents that use divine intent!
The puddle argument also refutes this silly argument. Putative God had no input to have
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Fr.Meslier's the problem of Heaven

Posted 01-14-2013 at 06:44 PM by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy

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No such problem exists for naturalism as we naturalists note that is what one expects of Nature without a supernatural boss!
That supposed narcissistic God would have no right to demand any relationships with us as the evil overthrows that twaddle. What really counts is how such a being would treat sentient beings instead of His mere desires!
We are not pottery to which He grants purposes, and He is not our potter to permit harm to.
Theists are as battered spouses and children,
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