Why God cannot exist!
Posted 01-28-2013 at 08:48 PM by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy
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Originally Posted by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy
Nozzferrahhyoo, I thank you and others for telling theists that they err!
Carneades' atelic argument notes that all teleological arguments- fine-tuning- probability, to design and from reason - beg the question of divinely directed outcomes.
My teleonomic argues that science finds no such outcomes, thereby ruling God out as that Grand Designer, Creator and all referents that use divine intent!
The puddle argument also refutes this silly argument. Putative God had no input to have us evolve; instead nature as noted, evolved us.
Theists get the fact backwards: Nature produced us, not we were desired, so that nature would produce us. Thus, the fine-tuning argument fails and also because no fine-tuning came about anyway! That also begs the question! Were the parameters different, perhaps no form of life could have evolved. Thus, theists would have to admit that was what their God desired! So much for their silliness!
" Logic is the bane of theists." Fr. Griggs
By the way, we would not be His property- His "things" to which He would give purpose! What a vicious blasphemy upon humanity!
We would owe Him nothing, and He'd have no rights over us at all, never to judge or punish us!
This gnu atheist goes to the heart of theism with a dagger, and to Christ=insanity in denouncing Yeshua as a moral leper!
Carneades' atelic argument notes that all teleological arguments- fine-tuning- probability, to design and from reason - beg the question of divinely directed outcomes.
My teleonomic argues that science finds no such outcomes, thereby ruling God out as that Grand Designer, Creator and all referents that use divine intent!
The puddle argument also refutes this silly argument. Putative God had no input to have us evolve; instead nature as noted, evolved us.
Theists get the fact backwards: Nature produced us, not we were desired, so that nature would produce us. Thus, the fine-tuning argument fails and also because no fine-tuning came about anyway! That also begs the question! Were the parameters different, perhaps no form of life could have evolved. Thus, theists would have to admit that was what their God desired! So much for their silliness!
" Logic is the bane of theists." Fr. Griggs
By the way, we would not be His property- His "things" to which He would give purpose! What a vicious blasphemy upon humanity!
We would owe Him nothing, and He'd have no rights over us at all, never to judge or punish us!
This gnu atheist goes to the heart of theism with a dagger, and to Christ=insanity in denouncing Yeshua as a moral leper!
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