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Has any European country, including the US, helped Africa? Where do you think was the source of so many of Africa's problems today?
Africa not being able to fend off the Europeans and getting enslaved. India had the same problem, but Indians are still ok. In Vietnam, we also had the same problem, we flourished. It's survival of the fittest. The Native Americans in America were also slaughtered by Europeans. Japanese terrorized the Chinese and Koreans for centuries. The roman empire took over all others.
Nonsense. Blaming everyone else for Africa's problems.
Africa not being able to fend off the Europeans and getting enslaved. India had the same problem, but Indians are still ok. In Vietnam, we also had the same problem, we flourished. It's survival of the fittest. The Native Americans in America were also slaughtered by Europeans. Japanese terrorized the Chinese and Koreans for centuries. The roman empire took over all others.
Nonsense. Blaming everyone else for Africa's problems.
It's an apples to oranges comparison. You can't really compare the problems with Africa with the rest of the other world as if they are all similar.
Africa not being able to fend off the Europeans and getting enslaved. India had the same problem, but Indians are still ok. In Vietnam, we also had the same problem, we flourished. It's survival of the fittest. The Native Americans in America were also slaughtered by Europeans. Japanese terrorized the Chinese and Koreans for centuries. The roman empire took over all others.
Nonsense. Blaming everyone else for Africa's problems.
The main difference is that the European powers divided up the African continent into nation-states of warring nations, just so that they couldn't bond together along ethnic lines and fight the Europeans. They were always at each other's throats insteads.
Africa's fate certainly was better than what happened to the natives in Australia, North America, and South America!!
Regarding India and Vietnam. The biggest difference is that they were already united nation-states. So they were already united, which made the cohesively shrug it all off, more or less.
However, if Europe would have carved Northern Vietnam with Laos, Northern Thailand, and a small section of China...and each was 25% of the each ethnicity...and made it into one nation-state, you'd have a society where no one would be able to get anything done.
Africa not being able to fend off the Europeans and getting enslaved. India had the same problem, but Indians are still ok. In Vietnam, we also had the same problem, we flourished. It's survival of the fittest. The Native Americans in America were also slaughtered by Europeans. Japanese terrorized the Chinese and Koreans for centuries. The roman empire took over all others.
Nonsense. Blaming everyone else for Africa's problems.
No offense, but how is Vietnam "flourishing" when it has a much lower Human Development Index than Honduras, Syria, Jamaica and Sri Lanka?
And even though India has definitely experienced a lot of growth in the recent decade (like some African nations), it's still not "ok". Huge proportions of it's population live in absolute poverty in slums, shacks and in deplorable hazardous conditions.
Today, Native Americans are generally a very very very struggling group in the US. So I don't get your point with that either.
I would rather trust China before any Western country. They have done enough damage to the continent.
Well its not up to you is it. Ordinary Africans complain bitterly that when China builds projects, many monument show cases for political elites. Not only do they use their professionals and suppliers as virtually all donor nations do, but they even import Chinese labor, depriving locals of the chance to get a job. They set up stores which import cheap and low quality goods, again only employing Chinese. These stores put the locals out of business, and also even destroy some local manufacturers.
And if that's not enough they are now beginning to do the same in the Caribbean, bribing local officials so that they can get their way. Giving low skilled Chinese workers' permits when locals who can perform those jobs remain unemployed in the Great Recession which is still troubling the Caribbean. The result has been random attacks against these workers, and targeting by the criminal elements who have the tacit support of much of the working class who feel that these people are making their lives worse.
So is China good or bad? Mixed picture as they are building valuable infrastructure and have become a valuable market for RAW commodities. But are ordinary Africans really benefitting? Probably not. The Chinese are also no more willing to allow skills transfer to enable Africans to acquire the skills to run these large mining enterprises than the Europeans were.
And note that the Chinese can be as racist as any as the riots against African students in China some years ago indicated.
Well its not up to you is it. Ordinary Africans complain bitterly that when China builds projects, many monument show cases for political elites. Not only do they use their professionals and suppliers as virtually all donor nations do, but they even import Chinese labor, depriving locals of the chance to get a job. They set up stores which import cheap and low quality goods, again only employing Chinese. These stores put the locals out of business, and also even destroy some local manufacturers.
And if that's not enough they are now beginning to do the same in the Caribbean, bribing local officials so that they can get their way. Giving low skilled Chinese workers' permits when locals who can perform those jobs remain unemployed in the Great Recession which is still troubling the Caribbean. The result has been random attacks against these workers, and targeting by the criminal elements who have the tacit support of much of the working class who feel that these people are making their lives worse.
So is China good or bad? Mixed picture as they are building valuable infrastructure and have become a valuable market for RAW commodities. But are ordinary Africans really benefitting? Probably not. The Chinese are also no more willing to allow skills transfer to enable Africans to acquire the skills to run these large mining enterprises than the Europeans were.
And note that the Chinese can be as racist as any as the riots against African students in China some years ago indicated.
It is simply not true.
It's up to me too,i've seen it myself.
You are purposely mixing 2 or 3 differents issues.
China is a country that helped more african countries that any other countries around the world.
China in fact truly transfer technology to african countries and China doesn't interfere with african internal affairs like europeans.
China doesn't practice economic blockade and blackmail like european countries.
Chines businessmen enter any market to make profit,selling poor quality items ?
i would say the same thing about the french selling secondhand products to african countries,so it has nothing to do with the China as a state,it's an individual thing.
Doing business with european also did not benefit ordinary africans.
Not true,thousands of african students are trained in China,doctors,ingeneers,teachers so this story is not true.
Racism in China is not as common as in Europe,the whole european mentality is based on superiority of one race over the others,so this is another lie.
Africans needs to stop blaming the Europeans for their failures and start taking responsibility.
Europeans invaded other continents too, and majority of them turned out be fine.
That's just flat out wrong.
MOST countries invaded by the Europeans are still not well-off.
The only exceptions are former colonies where most of the pop is made up of European-descendants, some lucky oil-rich countries, a select few east asian nations&caribbean countries.
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