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Old 07-22-2012, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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Hah, posted at the same time^^
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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Time to get back on track of the juice glass.

Today's tip is if you want people to post in a thread its best not to make the thread adversarial.
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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Your analogies don't fit, IMHO.

While I haven't experienced this first hand, I've heard over and over again that in the parts of the world (France and Italy, for example) where wine is more of a regular, everyday thing as compared to America, it's often drunk in tumblers, even in restaurants. I think this information is part of why specific "wine tumblers" are now marketed here from Riedel and others. However, with the prevalent way Americans think, they probably think they need specifically branded "wine tumblers" vs just regular juice glasses to do so.

I'm not one to call Americans stupid, like the fine folks on MSNBC or Bill Maher, but the pretense with wine is undeniable.
My analogies are fine. Like wine glasses (which feature specific shapes designed to let air reach or not reach more of the surface of the wine, and feature stems so that one does not alter the temperature with their body heat), thick-walled mugs with handles serve a utilitarian purpose for maintaining coffee's temp and easily handling a hot beverage. Bowls are designed with sloping walls to best contain liquid and porridge-like contents that would otherwise be difficult to spoon off a flat platter.

You clearly don't believe the design of a goblet or chalice to be functional, despite evidence to the contrary; you find the design to be frivolous and pretentious.

*I believe this post to be "on topic," as it relates to the reasons one might not choose to drink wine from a juice glass, but rather a receptacle designed for that purpose, as is stated in the OP.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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My analogies are fine. Like wine glasses (which feature specific shapes designed to let air reach or not reach more of the surface of the wine, and feature stems so that one does not alter the temperature with their body heat), thick-walled mugs with handles serve a utilitarian purpose for maintaining coffee's temp and easily handling a hot beverage. Bowls are designed with sloping walls to best contain liquid and porridge-like contents that would otherwise be difficult to spoon off a flat platter.

You clearly don't believe the design of a goblet or chalice to be functional, despite evidence to the contrary; you find the design to be frivolous and pretentious.

*I believe this post to be "on topic," as it relates to the reasons one might not choose to drink wine from a juice glass, but rather a receptacle designed for that purpose, as is stated in the OP.
I believe formal wine glasses do their job. But as in my original post, I'm talking about drinking everyday, inexpensive wines out of tumblers. IMO, a coffee cup's design is more a must and using stemware is not, thus the analogy fails. People just like to be pretentious with wine, the stemware is part of the packaged experience for them. Wine is just not normalized enough in this country, except maybe among certain immigrants, that it still has a novelty appeal.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Except she's NOT wrong.

She clearly stated that "red wine, TO ME, must be room temperature". That's a matter of personal taste. It can't be wrong. It doesn't matter what's generalized recognized as ideal, if an individual likes or doesn't like something a certain way.
True, but it seemed like she was espousing some sort of convential wisdom.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I haven't been to Italy but have been to France and Spain; in both countries I have had wine out of a stemmed wine glass only. I don't know if this is true in individuals homes though. I have also enjoyed wine in Poland, UK and Hong Kong, always served in a wine glass...Maybe that is just for tourists, I don't know. I have watched the Food Channel though and the same, seen wine served in wine glasses. For those who want to drink their wine out of a tumbler or cup so be it. I am sure, the quality of wine most of us drink will not be affected by the container it is in.
I had the thought that in touristy areas or upscale more formal restaurants stemware would still be used. I like your last sentence, and that's basically what I'm getting at.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:47 AM
 
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Except she's NOT wrong.

She clearly stated that "red wine, TO ME, must be room temperature". That's a matter of personal taste. It can't be wrong. It doesn't matter what's generalized recognized as ideal, if an individual likes or doesn't like something a certain way.
You're wasting the wine if you drink it at room temperature. That's a fact, not "personal taste."
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:04 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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You're wasting the wine if you drink it at room temperature. That's a fact, not "personal taste."

how is it a waste if that is how SHE enjoys it??

and yes, I drink mine out of a juice glass when I am relaxing in the evening.... but still trying to get a few things done before going to bed.... I tend to be clumsy, particularly when I am distracted or focused on multiple things, and stemware is just too easy for me to knock over....
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Scott County, IA
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Except she's NOT wrong.

She clearly stated that "red wine, TO ME, must be room temperature". That's a matter of personal taste. It can't be wrong. It doesn't matter what's generalized recognized as ideal, if an individual likes or doesn't like something a certain way.
I like my red wine boiled, run through a coffee filter, and then served at around 180 degrees F.

It is not wrong.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:56 AM
 
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^^^ rotflmao
Why do I drink my wine out of a wine glass? 'cuz that's what it's called I guess!
As per cost and breakage, we buy the cheapest we can find at Pier One and then if they get broken, oh well.
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