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Old 02-18-2014, 12:05 AM
 
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More people should know about stuff like this.
Tell me about. Their lost and my gain
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:29 PM
 
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Not really because I agree with him. Your solution was a typical rant. This is more of a set up for you. His post actually gives solutions. You're solution sounds like someone with a low iq trying to pass as someone with a high iq.
No you don't, that's why he wrote the post to you. I said that Haiti needs to limit the amount of people in the nation. That is a fact. If you're trying to insult my intelligence, can you please do it in a grammatically correct manner? I'm sure you can manage with your high IQ.

Haiti has a total land area of 27,750 sq km and a population of almost 10 million people. For your information; 27,750 sq km is a little more than the state of Massachusetts (27,336 km²) which has a population of 6,692,824. Just in case you didn't know, Massachusetts was estimated to be the third most densely populated state in the US.

Haiti has neither the economic environment, infrastructure, political system nor educational system to deal with its growing population.

http://www.populationinstitutecanada.ca/2013/06/07/overpopulation-a-growing-threat-to-global-food-security/

You can insult me all you like, I don't really care. Haiti is overpopulated and it would be in its best interest to limit the amount of births in the nation. Port-Au-Prince is an example of what awaits the entire country if the power movers do not heed caution.
You can't make this stuff up, every single one of these links touches on one of the main causes of the situation in Haiti (OVERPOPULATION). Some are current, some are older. All have a similar theme, i'm sure a know-it all such as yourself can look up more regarding this:

Haiti's Urban Baby Boom | Trinidad Express Newspaper | Woman Magazine

NJIA » Blog Archive » White Man

http://www.norad.no/en/countries/latin-america/haiti--405971

]http://www.dadychery.org/2011/10/28/too-many-people-too-much-consumption-the-most-overpopulated-nation/

Haiti needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. It’s not just throwing a couple bones and everything will be ok. Population control will happen naturally or forced.

http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2012/02...ange-in-haiti/

Once that has been stabilized, then you can idealize on the country all you want.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:42 PM
 
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Haiti has a total land area of 27,750 sq km and a population of almost 10 million people. For your information; 27,750 sq km is a little more than the state of Massachusetts (27,336 km²) which has a population of 6,692,824. Just in case you didn't know, Massachusetts was estimated to be the third most densely populated state in the US.
You do have a point there, but its not appropriate to compare Haiti's land area with that of Massachusetts. Unlike Massachusetts, most of Haiti is quite mountainous and the valleys tend to be quite small with an exception or two, so the population pressures are much greater than many people can possibly imagine.

This population density estimate map is of 2007, so it has obviously gotten a little more crowded since then. I say 90% of Haiti is visible here and where the bulk of the population lives.


http://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosa...7_highres.jpeg

This map shows the mountains that take up most of the space.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...cation_map.jpg
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:59 AM
 
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No you don't, that's why he wrote the post to you. I said that Haiti needs to limit the amount of people in the nation. That is a fact. If you're trying to insult my intelligence, can you please do it in a grammatically correct manner? I'm sure you can manage with your high IQ.

Haiti has a total land area of 27,750 sq km and a population of almost 10 million people. For your information; 27,750 sq km is a little more than the state of Massachusetts (27,336 km²) which has a population of 6,692,824. Just in case you didn't know, Massachusetts was estimated to be the third most densely populated state in the US.

Haiti has neither the economic environment, infrastructure, political system nor educational system to deal with its growing population.

http://www.populationinstitutecanada.ca/2013/06/07/overpopulation-a-growing-threat-to-global-food-security/

You can insult me all you like, I don't really care. Haiti is overpopulated and it would be in its best interest to limit the amount of births in the nation. Port-Au-Prince is an example of what awaits the entire country if the power movers do not heed caution.
You can't make this stuff up, every single one of these links touches on one of the main causes of the situation in Haiti (OVERPOPULATION). Some are current, some are older. All have a similar theme, i'm sure a know-it all such as yourself can look up more regarding this:

Haiti's Urban Baby Boom | Trinidad Express Newspaper | Woman Magazine

NJIA » Blog Archive » White Man

http://www.norad.no/en/countries/latin-america/haiti--405971

]http://www.dadychery.org/2011/10/28/too-many-people-too-much-consumption-the-most-overpopulated-nation/

Haiti needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. It’s not just throwing a couple bones and everything will be ok. Population control will happen naturally or forced.

Climate Change in Haiti – State of the Planet

Once that has been stabilized, then you can idealize on the country all you want.
Sorry to break it you but I don't log on this forum with a PC, it's through my iPhone and I've already stated multiple times on this thread that auto correct might mess up some of my words. But of coarse a smart person like yourself missed that.

I know the issues of Haiti and who are you to tell me that I did not agree.

Your primary solution of Haiti on this forum was a rant. Deal with it. Making up for your rant, posting zillions of articles doesn't make your first comment any less a rant.

And as far as this comment goes, hate to break it to you, none of that stuff is going to take 2 years to complete hell not even a decade. But so far I like what sweet Mickey is doing.

Get lost please.
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:49 PM
 
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Sorry to break it you but I don't log on this forum with a PC, it's through my iPhone and I've already stated multiple times on this thread that auto correct might mess up some of my words. But of coarse a smart person like yourself missed that.

I know the issues of Haiti and who are you to tell me that I did not agree.

Your primary solution of Haiti on this forum was a rant. Deal with it. Making up for your rant, posting zillions of articles doesn't make your first comment any less a rant.

And as far as this comment goes, hate to break it to you, none of that stuff is going to take 2 years to complete hell not even a decade. But so far I like what sweet Mickey is doing.

Get lost please.

Yes, since you did not agree with my post; it was a rant. Sorry I have an opinion Duvalier, I will not get lost; although I do hope you do on your first visit to Haiti. You read my post and then you proceeded to insult me several times, posting links and trying to type reasonably will not change that. As a matter a fact, you could not even try to engage me in any dialogue that wasn't veiled with insults.

Haiti has deep rooted issues, that will need extensive foundational work to correct. The current generations are pretty much screwed. Anyway, I said I was done responding to your pettiness early in this thread; So this is it.

You've never even been to Haiti, yet you're on a high horse. I actually visited in '95 and '07. How do you talk about something you don't have any firsthand experience in? Having parents from the nation isn't enough. It's cool, I will not respond to you again. Have fun preaching from wherever.

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Old 02-20-2014, 04:16 PM
 
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How about you never call yourself Haitian-American because the last advice Haitians need is from a haitian of your kind. BTW im sorry your family had sorry lives in Haiti, mines didnt and because of that i cant wait to go and visit (NEVER BEEN).
I've been to Haiti on Google Earth. It's enough to make me never want to go back. Definitely the most poverty I have ever seen anywhere, on Google Earth. Why did they have to chop down ALL the trees. Cmon guys.

Haitians may be good people, I've not many any really. However, what I've heard of the Haitian culture is only dismal.
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:24 AM
 
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Why did they have to chop down ALL the trees. Cmon guys.
That is actually the government's fault, because they could had prevented most of the trees from being chopped by promoting the use of gas stoves for cooking rather than letting most of the population cook with charcoal. Charcoal is made from wood.

Many people blame the French for the deforestation, but in reality Haiti was heavily forested well into the 20th Century. Every important person that visited Haiti at the end of the 19th Century and beginning of the 20th Century, and wrote about the country, commented on how thickly wooded it was, especially its mountains.

Right now only 1-2% of Haiti's land area is covered in forest and every year more are chopped down. I don't know if Haiti has a reforestation plan in action and if they have an educational campaign, but I'm willing to bet they don't.

A similar situation was facing the Dominican Republic on the other side of the island, but the Dominican government, no doubt alarmed by what was happening in Haiti, in the 1970's began to promote the use of gas stoves for cooking, put in place a reforestation plan, and developed a massive education campaign. By the 1990's most of the population had switched from charcoal to gas stoves and in the last decade the Dominican Republic was one of only four countries in the Western Hemisphere that is actually seeing an increase in its forest cover. The lowest it was was 20-something% and now practically 40% of the land area is covered in forests. Also the Dominican Republic has the largest percentage (25%) of land area legally protected with national parks and scientific reserves of all the American countries.



The difference between the two countries forest cover becomes quite visible along the border, as you can see:


http://tazmpictures.com/site/wp-cont...iti-border.gif



This is how a typical deforested mountain looks in Haiti:


http://domuchgood.com/wp-content/upl...st-640x420.jpg


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...-Haiti-008.jpg


http://www.acqweather.com/PAISAJES/P...20Haitiano.jpg



Compare that to typical mountains across the border in the Dominican Republic (this is how most Haitian mountains looked like before the massive deforestation):


http://www.cojolya.org/blog/wp-conte...orest-best.jpg


http://www.fotografiadominicana.com/...o-la-norte.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2311/...e5197d99_b.jpg
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:42 AM
 
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Why is Haiti so deforrested? They probably have a major erosion problem.
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:15 PM
 
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Why is Haiti so deforrested? They probably have a major erosion problem.
I already explained in my previous post why Haiti is so deforested.

And yes, Haiti suffers from mayor soil erosion. Most of the coral reefs off Haiti's coast are already dead because of the massive amount of sediment that the runoffs in the rivers have deposited. Many mountains have completely lost their top soil with the bare rock exposed and I think this makes any plan of reforestation, at least on those mountains that have lost their top soil, completely futile.

There is hope that Haiti's forest hurting habit might be significantly reduced, at least if this project effectively takes off:



It also appears that an attempt to recover some of the lost forest cover is underway, which is a good thing; but I have my reservations that they might be fully restored because the top soil that once covered a lot of Haitian mountains is now concentrated at the bottom of the sea surrounding Haiti:

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Old 03-08-2014, 10:01 AM
 
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Good news and coming from me of course it's progress.

Haiti one of the top 7 places to visit according to the Huffington post nice.

7 Places You Should Visit in 2014*|*Budget Travel
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