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Chile and Mexico experience a lower economic growth than, say, Colombia, Paraguay, Bolivia and other countries
Experienced as in recently? Chile's economy is still a strong contender in LATM. Peru is growing too. Mexico is in the clouds as far as the growth they've experienced within the last two decades.
Also an economy can grow but I look at overall indicators of a healthy country such as how the country is developing and using their new wealth. Brazil was in the BRIC nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China) and praised for it's growth but look at it now. Squandered.
Argentina? No way. It's going downhill with the massive corruption, the gang drug wars and the miserable poverty. I feel bad for them.
It goes right now Chile, big gap, Mexico, small gap, and Peru. They are the only ones doing at all great. Costa Rica, I've heard and read is stable and developing well.
Mexico has grown tremendously and Mexicans don't even want to make the trek up north to the US anymore. Central American immigration has surpassed Mexicans. The only thing Mexico has issues with are the Cartels.
Sadly, this forum is gradually filling up with trolls like this poster. And they do their thing in the most cowardly and miserable manner, wich is faking a nationality.
Sadly, this forum is gradually filling up with trolls like this poster. And they do their thing in the most cowardly and miserable manner, wich is faking a nationality.
Stop right there with the insults and the accusations. No one is faking anything. What is your problem with me personally? Because I happen to think that Argentina is on a downhill slide as of late? Can you prove me wrong or do you just feel the need to accuse me of trolling, which I may add is a personal attack and subject to an infraction.
Debate and post, don't go around accusing others of things you have no idea about. Right now, Chile, Peru and Mexico are doing well. Much better than Brazil, Venezuela or Argentina which aren't faring as well. Why is that controversial?
Don't get emotional and bring out some facts. How do you expect a country listed near the very bottom of the corruption index to fare better than a country listed as 2nd in LATM in corruption next to Uruguay? Seriously? Stop with the emotions and start posting FACTS please. Don't base any coming success on your new President.
Saying that Argentina has a "gang drug war" while Mexico has only a "issue with cartels" only has two potential interpretations:
a) a zero knowledge of the reality (for instance, Acapulco has had above 500 killings so far this year, whereas Rosario, by far the most dangerous city of Argentina, has had 224 in the whole 2015)
b) a flagrant attemp of trolling
Of course, i bet the second
The same goes for the Argentine "miserable poverty" comparison with the far better Peru you try to sell us, the same Peru wich still expulsed 320.000 fellow citizens to the "downhill country", ONLY between 2004-2014.
Saying that Argentina has a "gang drug war" while Mexico has only a "issue with cartels" only has two potential interpretations:
a) a zero knowledge of the reality (for instance, Acapulco has had above 500 killings so far this year, whereas Rosario, by far the most dangerous city of Argentina, has had 224 in the whole 2015)
b) a flagrant attemp of trolling
Of course, i bet the second
The same goes for the Argentine "miserable poverty" comparison with the far better Peru you try to sell us, the same Peru wich still expulsed 320.000 fellow citizens to the "downhill country", ONLY between 2004-2014.
So, you have earned a report, son
I get what you are trying to say. Of course overall, I wasn't trying to say that Argentina is a worse country than Peru or Mexico but that Argentina is on a downhill slide experiencing some of the worst it's country has had to endure for quite some time. Economically, by comparison it's doing worse than Peru or Mexico, right now and those nations are on a historical upswing vs Argentina which is on a historical downturn.
That's what I meant and only an emotional person would gather that I meant that Peru was actually richer than Argentina. The drug wars in Rosario are very real and have devastated the city. It's not there yet, but it's slowly approaching cartel levels of violence similar to what was seen in Colombia during the 90s.
Mexico has seen the worst violence in many decades thanks to the cartels but it cannot be taken away from them that they've improved their economy to the point where immigration to the USA is at an all time low to where there is a net zero immigration rate headed north. Central Americans dominate the immigration cross and many Mexicans have headed back to Mexico.
My point was despite the real issues of the two countries Peru and Mexico, Argentina is experiencing a downhill slide that puts it in a camp similar to Venezuela on a much smaller scale. A country that was on the rise and considered a stable LATM country only to find itself mired in corruption, drug gang violence and poverty. Yes real poverty. As bad as any other LATM country.
That is my report, hijito. See, this is debate. It's not that bad. No need to call each other names.
Argentina is actually pipped for growth by many economic specialist. Sure it's going through a process of transparency in its economic figures as the past Kirchner government used to massage and fake figures, but in the long run its poised to experienced growth.
Obviously before that, next year we will see a sharp fall in Argentinian nominal GDP, close to Colombian levels, as Argentina publishes more honest economical figures in line with the market value of their currency. However, after that the outlook for Argentina looks good.
Overall however, LatAm is doing ok, the Pacific Alliance countries (Mexico, Colombia, Peru, Chile) doing better than the other big three (Venezuela, Brazil and Argentina).
In an international context the 4 Pacific Alliance countries together have nearly the same GDP as 5 of the tiger economies together (Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines and Vietnam) with 330 million less people!!! That's a population of nearly 250% more.
That's why I don't get the focus on south Asian development over LatAm development.
Argentina is actually pipped for growth by many economic specialist. Sure it's going through a process of transparency in its economic figures as the past Kirchner government used to massage and fake figures, but in the long run its poised to experienced growth.
Obviously before that, next year we will see a sharp fall in Argentinian nominal GDP, close to Colombian levels, as Argentina publishes more honest economical figures in line with the market value of their currency. However, after that the outlook for Argentina looks good.
Overall however, LatAm is doing ok, the Pacific Alliance countries (Mexico, Colombia, Peru, Chile) doing better than the other big three (Venezuela, Brazil and Argentina).
In an international context the 4 Pacific Alliance countries together have nearly the same GDP as 5 of the tiger economies together (Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines and Vietnam) with 330 million less people!!! That's a population of nearly 250% more.
That's why I don't get the focus on south Asian development over LatAm development.
Very true. I think most of the economic optimism surrounding Argentina is in the ousting of Kirchner for the more business friendly Macri whose administration promised to negotiate and bring Argentina back into the global economy. This has sent positive economic signals that tide is turning. But I don't think that one President can fix all the years before of massive down slide. I mean 3 billion dollar trade deficit just last year? GM cut auto production in Argentina too last I've read.
I mean they'd have to fix decades of cronyism to get back on track. Argentina, Venezuela and Brazil are all at the crossroads.
Argentina is tired, even their people are so tired and cliche
on the 21st century NO ONE CARES about europeans, and italians and none of that, but argentinians still think europe=glamour, and if you drink some tired ass french alcoholic drink you're classy because its french, and if you're anorexic you're chic (anorexic was chic elsewhere in the world in the 80's in argentina is still a thing), and if you're traveling it better be europe because it's chic, and paris is class, and all of that aspirational BS
I also find annoying that constant european wannabe BS (who cares... I lived in Europe for over ten years and Europeans barely if ever remember there is a place called Argentina!)
their economy is bad, their country is falling apart, their leaders are crap and yet they have the nerve to come and bash neighboring countries, and claim they're WAY UP THERE economically!
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Stop right there with the insults and the accusations. No one is faking anything. What is your problem with me personally? Because I happen to think that Argentina is on a downhill slide as of late? Can you prove me wrong or do you just feel the need to accuse me of trolling, which I may add is a personal attack and subject to an infraction. 
