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Globo, Conde Naste, Rede, etc all perpetuate a "white" brazilian beauty in the media. Which is how most people get their POV of the country. From what they see...
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Sad. In fact Bolsonaro is among the darker ones that they show. Some would rather a Brazil of that Germanic Sao Paulo type.
Heck if I were someone with the typical mixture of the northeast regions like the Sertao I would also protest. Some would have us believe that Brazil looks like Milan and are enraged that they cannot pull this off.
Brazilian soap operas are very eurocentric. The majority of the actors are white. Look like Brazil is a full white country.
But in the external image of Brazil I honestly think the opposite. Whenever they’re going to show something that refers to Brazil, like a videoclip, movies, documentaries they only use Salvador de Bahia or Rio de Janeiro both of them the most blackest cities in Brazil, it seems that Brazil is an African country.
The image of Brazil which matters is that which Brazilian media project. They chose to exclude blacks, so if foreign media focus on blacks then that is appropriate.
Face it what distinguishes Brazil from Europe and North America is the African aspects of its culture. That is what makes it unique and that is therefore what attracts attention.
Brazilian soap operas are very eurocentric. The majority of the actors are white. Look like Brazil is a full white country.
That's true, but the white Brazilians are the ones who create those soap operas, so it's to be expected. The black Brazilians are usually too poor to produce and distribute their own shows.
In my youth I watch tv soap opera from Brazil, Isaura escrava/slave. Was very popular worldwide and viewed in 80 countries. Story is based on 1865 abolitionists novel by Bernardo Guimaraes in portugese. Tv was 100 episodes.
Were I Brazilian I would be asking why is a nation of 200 million, the second largest by size and also by population in the Americas, the dominant nation in South America, one with the 9th largest GDP in the world is so invisible. In the Americas there are 2 super powers, and the 2nd one is NOT Canada, nor is it Mexico!
Why is Brazil treated like St Vincent, a tiny Caribbean island. Volcanic eruption in St V is a minor news item, just as is Brazil's Covid crisis. And were I American I would think that its only Covid, Covid, Covid. And its Manaus, not Rio, which is featured with the huge unmarked graves. Now is it that folks will be angry that its Native Brazilians who are now being covered?
I am sure that many other things are happening in Brazil but we see nothing of it. Heck we are more likely to see news from Myanmar.
So this wailing on this which has been growing on for a year, and has now jumped to another thread, is strange. Clearly the lament isnt that Brazil is ignored, despite its importance. Its that its the "wrong" kind of Brazilian is being displayed.
Seriously Americans do not care anymore about Brazil than they do about Fiji. And THAT should be the problem, because clearly Brazil as the 2nd most important nation in the Americas, deserves way more priority.
Because it's relatively poor and people in developed countries don't tend to care about poor countries because they can't relate to them. Japan a country of 130m people would get a lot more attention if a volcano erupted on the mainland island because it's a rich, developed country.
The case could always be made that, in this case, more Brazilians are at least in part native to Brazil than usually thought.
For example, can anyone make believe than more Americans have bits of Native American in them? How can anyone even imply that they aren't native when a part of them is?
A similar thing happens with many self-proclaimed natives, particularly in the USA and with the European ancestry taking a predence. Many times the native is actually mostly European. Imagine that. Another way to look at this, there are tribes in the USA that require a very low DNA from the natives in order to join them and claim to be a Native American. There are tribes that a person needs to be at least 6% and many even less Native American DNA to be considered part of the tribe. Just for the record, in DNA tests the average Dominican is around 8% native american. Think about that for a moment.
QUOTE=AntonioR;60955404]The case could always be made that, in this case, more Brazilians are at least in part native to Brazil than usually thought.
For example, can anyone make believe than more Americans have bits of Native American in them? How can anyone even imply that they aren't native when a part of them is?
Having small traces of native dna does not make one native. In anycase, there were no blacks here prior to colonization.
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A similar thing happens with many self-proclaimed natives, particularly in the USA and with the European ancestry taking a predence. Many times the native is actually mostly European. Imagine that. Another way to look at this, there are tribes in the USA that require a very low DNA from the natives in order to join them and claim to be a Native American. There are tribes that a person needs to be at least 6% and many even less Native American DNA to be considered part of the tribe. Just for the record, in DNA tests the average Dominican is around 8% native american. Think about that for a moment.
Yeah that is a weird phenomenon that occurs in the US and Canada. Thats why many bands discourage their members from taking DNA test. It is because of things like this people here in North America feel like they can make any claims they want to about Native AMericans. Only here can some one with blonde hair and blue eyes get away with saying they are native.
Having small traces of native dna does not make one native.
That's obvious, but it remains that unlike what, 90% of humanity?, doesn't have even a small amount of native while these people do.
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In anycase, there were no blacks here prior to colonization.
There was no other types of people of any kind until the white ones arrived first. The blacks were brought by the whites. The whites are also the main creators of the mestizos, the mulattoes, and indirectly the zambos and other mixes. Take the whites out of the picture and most of the rest of humanity in the Western Hemisphere either would had never appeared in this hemisphere or would had never come into existence (considering that almost all the mestizos and zambos, most of the mulattoes, etc came to existence and live in the Americas.)
It's also true, and this can be controversial among some, that before the migration many years ago via the Bering Straight there was no humanity in the Americas. That's very unlike places like Africa where migration or no migration there were humans.
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Yeah that is a weird phenomenon that occurs in the US and Canada. Thats why many bands discourage their members from taking DNA test. It is because of things like this people here in North America feel like they can make any claims they want to about Native AMericans. Only here can some one with blonde hair and blue eyes get away with saying they are native.
Certainly with that assertion, but in many other places in the Americas certain assertions are accepted. Take a look ar¡t the descendants of the Caribs in the Lesser Antilles, in Dominica to be exact. As long that people have certain realities running through their veins, things like this will happen. There is a reason why no say Thai claims to be even part descendant of native americans and neither among Japanese, Iranians, Saudis; Greeks, Nigerians... But you will see it among some Puerto Ricans, Brazilians, Uruguayans; Colombians, Panamanians, Belizeans; etc.
There are other things to consider as well. For example, it's already noted that the Spanish ancestry, particularly from colonial origin, of many Latin Americans is already diverging from the Spanish ancestry of modern Spaniards. If it's already diverging, it brings up the question of what it truly means to be native of the Americas.
If that's already happening with Spanish ancestry in the Americas from the 1500's and 1600's, it must be happening too with African DNA that has been in the Americas since that time as well. All the Africans brought during the first wave in the XVI Century went to Spanish and Portuguese America. The other European powers basically created the second wave of Africans mostly in the 1700's and 1800's.
There was no other types of people of any kind until the white ones arrived first. The blacks were brought by the whites. The whites are also the main creators of the mestizos, the mulattoes, and indirectly the zambos and other mixes. Take the whites out of the picture and most of the rest of humanity in the Western Hemisphere either would had never appeared in this hemisphere or would had never come into existence (considering that almost all the mestizos and zambos, most of the mulattoes, etc came to existence and live in the Americas.)
WTF? Yeah there were no whites or blacks here. So it should be perfectly clear who the Natives (first nations or aboriginals what ever you prefer) are.
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It's also true, and this can be controversial among some, that before the migration many years ago via the Bering Straight there was no humanity in the Americas. That's very unlike places like Africa where migration or no migration there were humans.
The same could be said about any region, WHy is this only used against Natives? No one would question the origins of Europeans, Asians etc etc.
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Certainly with that assertion, but in many other places in the Americas certain assertions are accepted. Take a look ar¡t the descendants of the Caribs in the Lesser Antilles, in Dominica to be exact. As long that people have certain realities running through their veins, things like this will happen. There is a reason why no say Thai claims to be even part descendant of native americans and neither among Japanese, Iranians, Saudis; Greeks, Nigerians... But you will see it among some Puerto Ricans, Brazilians, Uruguayans; Colombians, Panamanians, Belizeans; etc.
No one should be making any assertions. There the DNA tests. The fact that in some areas people think its perfectly ok to say" my great grandma was a cherokee princess" therefore I am native doesn't actually make it ok.
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