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Old 10-06-2020, 09:09 PM
 
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Originally Posted by DetroitN8V View Post
“Anti-gun”, LOL. Like he hates guns. He owns firearms. Wanting to add common sense to gun laws doesn’t equal anti-gun. This simpleminded, binary thinking is laughable. There’s middle ground in the real world.
Keep laughing, You 're ignoring obvious facts right in front of your face. He is as Anti-gun as they get. Look it up if you are able to do so. Stop being obtuse. You can look that up as well....

Lots of people own an old .38 or .22 their grandpa left them and say....'I am a gun owner'.....BS!

 
Old 10-06-2020, 09:14 PM
 
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Over 90% of Americans support background checks on all gun sales. Even that sensible policy has been impossible to enact.

Confiscation of guns in this country is less likely than Earth being struck by a civilization-ending asteroid tonight. So take a chill pill and relax (well, unless you see an asteroid approaching).
Interesting politicians don’t want to stop at background checks they want further control.

I look at a politician actions, Kamala Harris as the California AG has enacted the strictest gun control laws in the nation her views on an individual right to own a firearm is telling and radical going against American views.

Harris Does Not Believe the Second Amendment Protects an Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms

As District Attorney of San Francisco, Harris signed on to an amicus curiae brief in the U.S. Supreme Court case District of Columbia v. Heller that argued the Second Amendment does not protect an individual right to keep and bear arms. The Heller case concerned a complete prohibition on the civilian ownership of handguns within the District of Columbia.

Advocating against the individual right to keep and bear arms, the brief argued,

courts have consistently sustained criminal firearms laws against Second Amendment challenges by holding that, inter alia, (i) the Second Amendment provides only a militia-related right to bear arms, (ii) the Second Amendment does not apply to legislation passed by state or local governments,

According to the document, the Second Amendment does not protect an individual right, but rather, the lower court in Heller“create[d]”this right. The brief stated,

The lower court’s decision, however, creates a broad private right to possess any firearm that is a “lineal descendant” of a founding era weapon and that is in “common use” with a “military application” today.

Anticipating the U.S. Supreme Court’s move in the next landmark Second Amendment case (McDonald v. Chicago), Harris’s brief reiterated that the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms should not be incorporated to the states. Had this thinking been adopted, state and local governments would be empowered to curtail or even extinguish gun rights without restraint. State and local governments would have been able to bar their residents from owning any firearms whatsoever.



Harris’s extreme views on the U.S. Constitution were again born out in her votes against President Donald Trump’s pro-Second Amendment nominees for the U.S. Supreme Court. On September 4, 2018, Harris delivered a speech to the Senate where she cited Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s fidelity to the correct interpretation of the Second Amendment as a reason for her opposition to his confirmation.

With this track record, gun owners could expect a president Harris to nominate U.S. Supreme Court justices and lower court judges that share her discredited view of the Second Amendment.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2020...ket-in-history

Mark Kelly as a Senator will back this agenda in a New York minute, if you don’t believe that your very naive

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_ap...d_3526418.html

Last edited by ttboy; 10-06-2020 at 09:36 PM..
 
Old 10-06-2020, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The whole childish name calling counterfeit Kelly is idiotic. That works for Trump but not for someone running for the Senate in AZ grow up jeez!

She knows how to dodge and deflect like a pro.
 
Old 10-06-2020, 09:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Woody01 View Post
Keep laughing, You 're ignoring obvious facts right in front of your face. He is as Anti-gun as they get. Look it up if you are able to do so. Stop being obtuse. You can look that up as well....

Lots of people own an old .38 or .22 their grandpa left them and say....'I am a gun owner'.....BS!
Someone that owns a .38 isn’t a gun owner? OK! The laughs keep coming.
 
Old 10-06-2020, 09:21 PM
 
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The whole childish name calling counterfeit Kelly is idiotic. That works for Trump but not for someone running for the Senate in AZ grow up jeez!

She knows how to dodge and deflect like a pro.
It was really cringeworthy. How embarrassing.
 
Old 10-06-2020, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It was really cringeworthy. How embarrassing.
Kelly has this in the bag if that's the best Sally can do she's toast.
 
Old 10-06-2020, 09:29 PM
 
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This is the Gun Control Kelly favors

Founded Radical Gun Control Group
Kelly started a national gun control group that works to dismantle our constitutional freedoms and right to self-defense.

Supports Red Flag Laws
Kelly supports unconstitutional Red Flag laws which would strip Second Amendment rights of individuals by confiscating firearms without due process.

Semi-Auto Ban

Kelly supports Senator Dianne Feinstein’s failed semi-auto ban that would ban commonly owned firearms used for hunting, recreational shooting and self-defense.

Supports Magazine Bans
Kelly supports bans on standard-capacity magazines.

Supports Government Blacklists

Kelly supports legislation that would deny persons on secret government lists their Second Amendment right to purchase or own a firearm without due process.

Opposes Right-to-Carry
Kelly opposes Concealed Carry Reciprocity legislation, which would ensure that the nearly 20 million law-abiding Americans who can carry a concealed firearm in their home state are able to do so in any other state that does not prohibit concealed carry.

Supports Criminalizing Private Firearm Transfers
Kelly supports legislation to create the Schumer/Biden/Bloomberg so-called “universal” background check system that would criminalize the private transfer of firearms, which is only enforceable through federal firearms registration.

Wrong on Judges
Kelly refuses to commit to support judicial nominees that respect and value the Second Amendment.

https://www.nrapvf.org/campaigns/2020/mark-kelly/
 
Old 10-06-2020, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Pinetop-Lakeside, AZ
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I was going to post, hey did any one see the debate? Lol.
 
Old 10-06-2020, 09:39 PM
 
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She was very bad. Less desperate than last time but still bad
 
Old 10-06-2020, 09:49 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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I watched most of it. She's not good at live debates. The name calling etc. This is a shame for someone like her to fill McCain's seat.
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