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Old 11-09-2011, 05:13 PM
 
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In China, you can enjoy polluted air/water/foods and fake soy sauce/meat/eggs/milk/money/watches/DVD's etc.
It is true that the pollution in China is high, but one can get real meat/eggs/long-life milk, etc.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Macao
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As far I have seen Chinese universities do require the M.A. for teaching English the same as the South Korean & Japanese do.

I think the Chinese experience is good for someone young with no commitments (who doesn't have big student loans to pay back) or for an older person who doesn't need to rely on the Chinese salary to pay for their expenses back in the USA while they are in China.

I have heard that life in Japan is very expensive so one doesn't save much.
On the other hand, I have heard that in South Korea one earn a good wage and the cost of living is lower (so one can save money in South Korea).
South Korea definitely doesn't. I taught there off and on from 1996-2008. I also taught at a university without an MA at the time, and the majority of my co-workers didn't have a MA either. (However, I did go back to school and attained two different MA's since that time, however). Once I attained it, I was definitely a rarity there to have a MA, especially one in TESOL.

Japan, however, it's absolutely required.

China is the one country out of the three that I haven't taught English at the university level. Maybe I'm wrong, but the general assumption/rule from most of us expats in Japan/Korea is that it's by far the easiest to get a uni teaching job for native english speakers. It also pays absolute peanuts, so the few who 'desire' to teach there, usually do so because they have a strong interest in China, not because of money.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:22 PM
 
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It is true that the pollution in China is high, but one can get real meat/eggs/long-life milk, etc.
Many thought they bought real meat/eggs/long-life milk, but they are not.

Wait, you say long-life milk? That is one of products that I never buy.
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:56 AM
 
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Many thought they bought real meat/eggs/long-life milk, but they are not.

Wait, you say long-life milk? That is one of products that I never buy.
I am wondering what you mean by fake meat or fake eggs.

As for long-life milk, people in the USA buy that too especially for emergencies or one is going a camping trip, etc.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Fairfax
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South Korea definitely doesn't. I taught there off and on from 1996-2008. I also taught at a university without an MA at the time, and the majority of my co-workers didn't have a MA either. (However, I did go back to school and attained two different MA's since that time, however). Once I attained it, I was definitely a rarity there to have a MA, especially one in TESOL.

Japan, however, it's absolutely required.

China is the one country out of the three that I haven't taught English at the university level. Maybe I'm wrong, but the general assumption/rule from most of us expats in Japan/Korea is that it's by far the easiest to get a uni teaching job for native english speakers. It also pays absolute peanuts, so the few who 'desire' to teach there, usually do so because they have a strong interest in China, not because of money.
My understanding of university-level teaching in China is that it all has to do with location. Most universities in Shanghai/Beijing will want MAs, but will settle depending on the demand for the jobs (which since the financial crisis has exploded). However, a friend of mine who has zero experience teaching and is not a native speaker, got a job teaching English in frozen Shenyang. And yes he makes peanuts, but at least he gets 3 months off!
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:26 AM
 
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I am wondering what you mean by fake meat or fake eggs.
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As for long-life milk, people in the USA buy that too especially for emergencies or one is going a camping trip, etc.
Well, I can't help with those people. Let us hope long-life milk is less harmful than polluted water in China.
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