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Taiwanese pride? from what? being a Japanese colony? or staying in a tiny island daydreaming about independance.
From my experience in the chinese community in US, most mainlanders are very confident about their national identity, while the taiwanese are rarely showing the same
Just go to Taiwan and take an honest look. Seriously, aside from working too hard the Taiwanese have it better than the majority of Chinese.
Plus there's a reason it was named 'Ilha Formosa', the beautiful Isle, by the Portuguese. It really is a paradise on earth.
I have not been to Taiwan, and am not very interested. from relatives and friends who have been there, it is not very impressive. been to HK. it is nice. Want to go to Singapore one day, or Japan.
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Just go to Taiwan and take an honest look. Seriously, aside from working too hard the Taiwanese have it better than the majority of Chinese.
Plus there's a reason it was named 'Ilha Formosa', the beautiful Isle, by the Portuguese. It really is a paradise on earth.
If I remmeber correctly, China let only one city participate in PISA. And that was Shanghai, and only selected schools there. Botswana could do this too and be at the top.
Consistently ranks number 1 ? Wasn't that even the first year they 'participated' ?
Yeah, lots of false comments in that poster's comment- also the comment about the best infrastructure in the world, totally untrue.
If I remmeber correctly, China let only one city participate in PISA. And that was Shanghai, and only selected schools there. Botswana could do this too and be at the top.
Consistently ranks number 1 ? Wasn't that even the first year they 'participated' ?
no, definitely not the first time. This is NY times reporting Shanghai overscoreing other countries in PISA in 2010.
Westerners or brainwashed asians tend to believe that China is very poor and isolated. Anyway, I live in a european city that ranks among the top 3 in terms of quality of life. I would say I still miss my life in shanghai a lot. After travelling extensively in many top cities, like paris, london or NYC, the quality of life in Shanghai is at least comparable to those.
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Yeah, lots of false comments in that poster's comment- also the comment about the best infrastructure in the world, totally untrue.
One is that on the OECD’s study of 15-year-old’s abilities, the so-called PISA study, Shanghai students achieved the highest results in all three categories of reading, mathematics and science. The aim of this study is not to measure the results of learning by rote, but rather to gauge student’s abilities to use the knowledge they have acquired in practical ways. So you cannot dismiss this as the result of Chinese “cramming”. Shanghai is the richest place in mainland China, but the OECD commented that results were close to the OECD average even in very poor areas.
Yeah, lots of false comments in that poster's comment- also the comment about the best infrastructure in the world, totally untrue.
hard to say the "best", but in terms of hard infrastructure, Shanghai definitely boasts one of the best.
How many cities have Shanghai's length of subway lines, most equipped with protective doors along the rail tracks?
How many have Shanghai's number of buses?
How many cities have full cellphone signal at subway stations? (NYers are still dreaming about it)
How many have as extensive elevated road system in the city?
How many have maglev? (like none?)
How many have so many bridges and tunnels across the river?
How many have two large airports both with direct subway access to downtown? (Even Narita doesn't. The one way N'ex costs like $100 one way)
How many have direct access of high speed rail to a dozen other cities?
If you want to compare schools and hospitals, I can give you numbers too.
The fact is, Shanghai's infrastructure is really hard to beat.
Absolutely. Shanghai may have the best infrastructure among the global cities. It can beat NYC, Paris, London or Tokyo easily.
Even some second tier city like Wuhan has better infrastructure than many western cities. It is reported that Wuhan will invest twice as much on infrastructure as the entire UK over the next 5 years or so
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hard to say the "best", but in terms of hard infrastructure, Shanghai definitely boasts one of the best.
How many cities have Shanghai's length of subway lines, most equipped with protective doors along the rail tracks?
How many have Shanghai's number of buses?
How many cities have full cellphone signal at subway stations? (NYers are still dreaming about it)
How many have as extensive elevated road system in the city?
How many have maglev? (like none?)
How many have so many bridges and tunnels across the river?
How many have two large airports both with direct subway access to downtown? (Even Narita doesn't. The one way N'ex costs like $100 one way)
How many have direct access of high speed rail to a dozen other cities?
If you want to compare schools and hospitals, I can give you numbers too.
The fact is, Shanghai's infrastructure is really hard to beat.
One is that on the OECD’s study of 15-year-old’s abilities, the so-called PISA study, Shanghai students achieved the highest results in all three categories of reading, mathematics and science. The aim of this study is not to measure the results of learning by rote, but rather to gauge student’s abilities to use the knowledge they have acquired in practical ways. So you cannot dismiss this as the result of Chinese “cramming”. Shanghai is the richest place in mainland China, but the OECD commented that results were close to the OECD average even in very poor areas.
From the same article (which is an op-ed):
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Some time soon, probably within the next decade, that switch of the 1880s will be reversed. China will pass the US in economic size, though, of course, in terms of living standards and technical competence it will remain far below.
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