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most americans don't even know whats beyond their county line/border so Im pretty sure most of them don't even know that more than a hundred years ago, their country ventured more than 10k miles away to have their own colony
most americans don't even know whats beyond their county line/border so Im pretty sure most of them don't even know that more than a hundred years ago, their country ventured more than 10k miles away to have their own colony
most americans don't even know whats beyond their county line/border so Im pretty sure most of them don't even know that more than a hundred years ago, their country ventured more than 10k miles away to have their own colony
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Originally Posted by 415_s2k
Not true at all and you know it
I think its is true if public school is the same as when I went through in the 1970s. We never had time to get that far before the class graduated and returned the next year and started the cycle all over again with the European colonization of the Americas with different modules on Greek gods, etc.
The average American has no ideal that we lost as many in the Philippines forty years before Japan attacked that we just did in Iraq. Or that the Philippines was just a collateral action to trying to get Spain out of Cuba and in the aftermath we only stayed so that another national power wouldn't try to add the islands to their empires as the middle of the ocean away from continental armies was one of the last areas still being open to empires being built
I think its is true if public school is the same as when I went through in the 1970s. We never had time to get that far before the class graduated and returned the next year and started the cycle all over again with the European colonization of the Americas with different modules on Greek gods, etc.
The average American has no ideal that we lost as many in the Philippines forty years before Japan attacked that we just did in Iraq. Or that the Philippines was just a collateral action to trying to get Spain out of Cuba and in the aftermath we only stayed so that another national power wouldn't try to add the islands to their empires as the middle of the ocean away from continental armies was one of the last areas still being open to empires being built
I was referrng to the comment that most americans not knowing anything beyond their county, which is why I bolded it.
but lets admit, most americans never ventured beyond their state line..very parochial is what I mean
That's not true at all. Most Americans get to other parts of the US; that's part of the reason that you don't get Americans who travel abroad as much as other countries... it's a big place with different regions that have their own topographies and cultures, and it's usually much cheaper to travel to those places than overseas, so people do just that. It's rare that I ever encounter someone who's never been out of state, and who doesn't have family in another state or region, for that matter.
I also don't find Americans on the whole to be any more or less parochial than people from most other places... it's just a tired, played-out trope that people still like to lob around to make them feel better about themselves and get a few cheap yuks.
The US also bears essentially all of the credit for stopping the Americans from continuing to kill people in other countries.
The Mongols killed people abroad but has stop killing for several hundreds years.
The Japanese killed people abroad but has stop killing for several decades.
The Americans killed people abroad but, well, no but, and continue to do so.
The Mongols were more or less continuously at war for over two hundred years - Mongol invasions were estimated to have depopulated the world by as much as 25%
The Japanese as aggressors in WWII were responsible for the deaths of millions in the PacRim (like Germany). They have been admirably pacifistic ever since.
Americans were involved in WWI/WWII but only to curb aggressor nations (they were not involved in starting the wars). Then there is Korea and Vietnam - proxy wars against communist nations - arguably started (or at least prolonged) by America.
In my lifetime there are numerous formal wars as well as informal engagements, many (not all) with a humanitarian purpose. Don't point fingers without also pointing out the US is one of the only nations on earth that has deployed troops to prevent atrocities taking place or to promote peace between warring factions
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