Should Japan bring in millions of Chinese and Korean immigrants

[Paixetluv]

Originally Posted by willister

There are pretty much 3 routes/tiers to emigration for these two groups:

1) The "West" - namely the US, Canada and Australia. Great in the past, probably not so much anymore. Leading countries in most areas, better off health wise and also financially (social security system). Drawback is potentially discrimination and cultural difficulties adjusting. However, benefits would hugely outweight any costs associated.

Nope, WAY too optimistic. I don't think you realize there's been a trend of reverse immigration recently (back to SK) because the life/"American Dream" they're promised for turned out to be even worse than the life they'd enjoyed back home.

Esp. on health care, SK >>>> US/Australia. SK has a really affordable universal health care system and the quality is quite high. Not sure if you really know much about the US., but it costs a fortune to see a doctor here, and a large percentage of the population is still without any healthcare.

Also, have you ever been to SK? Life there is incredibly convenient with lots of technological innovations. Infrastructure is also better in SK than in comparable T-1 Western cities.

Where SK lags behind the West ain't on the points of health care and standard of living but on education and better work/life balance.

Koreans don't immigrate to the West because the West objectively offers more financial security and better health care (this is simply not true!). Koreans immigrate out of necessity because of the sheer competition they face in their own home country.

When you have an incredibly educated workforce, the competition for high-caliber jobs becomes extremely stiff.

[Paixetluv]

Originally Posted by Dangerous-Boy

i think koreans are experiencing the same demographic problems that japanese. China may also grow old before they get rich

Yes, exactly.

[Tomboy-]

There have been reverse immigration from western countries back to South Korea, HK and Mainland China. Good income and opportunities are the reasons. Fewer back to Taiwan because not easy to get a job paying as high as in the US, Canada and Australia and the economy is not good performing. But it is very affordable to see doctors in Taiwan, but still more expensive than most of Southeast Asia.

Asian cities are also very convenient for shoppers, diners, commuters and travellers with shops, restaurants and public transport.

South Koreans are more obsessed with education than Chinese. Work life balance is not as important in Asia. If you want to assimilate in Asia, you have to accept the work and other cultures. Viewing local cultures as inferior or unsuitable, most foreigners choose not to assimilate, not learning the Asian languages and have jobs such as English teachers or in foreign companies in Asian cities. Foreign kids go to international schools to avoid the Asian style of education viewed as bad in western cultures. Many foreigners live in Asia but hate most local cultures or practices. They believe their ways are the best, everyone should learn from them.