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Old 11-28-2019, 05:42 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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It may have been set in the 23rd Century, but it was made in the sixties and reflected prevailing values. Even when they depicted women in positions of responsibility, they felt obliged to include some "well, afterall she's just a woman" scene. Like the Klingon commander who allowed herself to be seduced by Spock while Kirk stole the cloaking device. The feminist movement first gained traction in the early '70's, after the original series was off the air.
Romulan. I'd always rather liked that Romulans so often had women commanders. I believe I know why but you won't get me saying so. Not if you locked me in a mansion with three beautiful women, I'd never tell you!
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Old 11-28-2019, 07:46 PM
 
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I still maintain that the "something more" has to do with the galaxies of outer space and, in the opposite direction, atomic and sub-atomic structure. And that all the oddities and unexplained phenomena humans have claimed to glimpse, are reflections of that in some way.

It's an inside/outside problem, a quite ordinary continuum which we have not grasped as yet, mainly because understanding it is not necessary for our survival, and would be too distracting at this stage of our evolution (which has barely begun, despite our self-delusion and arrogance).
thats exactly what I say. I disagree its a continuum that we can't grasp to guide us in these topics. We have enough to say that "something more, not more gods" seems to be more valid than "deny everything to stop religions control" and "my-god-only"

zoom out powers of ten and describe the system. If you zoom to far out we see nothing. maybe until we zoom many powers of ten. 10^100 maybe.

well, I say 10^6 miles is the best we can do for now with any real certainty. Universal is just to big.

we are the exact same field. That means you and me are on the exact same field. now zoom out. the surface of our earth is better described as non-life? errr, nope. is it best described as natural? using the word natural is like asking whats the difference between a car and a plane and the person answering they are both natural.
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Old 11-28-2019, 08:02 PM
 
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I still maintain that the "something more" has to do with the galaxies of outer space and, in the opposite direction, atomic and sub-atomic structure. And that all the oddities and unexplained phenomena humans have claimed to glimpse, are reflections of that in some way.

It's an inside/outside problem, a quite ordinary continuum which we have not grasped as yet, mainly because understanding it is not necessary for our survival, and would be too distracting at this stage of our evolution (which has barely begun, despite our self-delusion and arrogance).
I thought this was pretty good. But I'm innocent of physics, despite my extensive collection of Einstein photos of him playing the violin, playing the piano, riding a bicycle at Princeton and at conferences. I don't enjoy reading his prose, either. So I have no idea if there is any sort of similarity between the stars and subatomic particles. Don't suppose there is any cosmological genius who could address the issue?

I didn't think so.
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Old 11-28-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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I thought this was pretty good. But I'm innocent of physics, despite my extensive collection of Einstein photos of him playing the violin, playing the piano, riding a bicycle at Princeton and at conferences. I don't enjoy reading his prose, either. So I have no idea if there is any sort of similarity between the stars and subatomic particles. Don't suppose there is any cosmological genius who could address the issue?

I didn't think so.
yeah, kara ... when it doesn't suit your need just ignore it. weather its true or not isn't really a concern to you ... so it seems.

something more, not more gods is clearly the most rational stance. based not only on science but that fact that you have to ignore the science that shows you.
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Old 11-28-2019, 09:28 PM
 
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Yesterday I was taking the third class in a series of four about "developing psychic ability". I've found some of the class quite interesting and intriguing...other things not so much.

Yesterday, however, I was interested in part of the discussions which turned to the idea of "psychic cords"...the idea of which is that we connect to people via strings of psychic energy, and that that can be both good and bad, and that sometimes we need to strengthen those cords, and other times we need to brush them away. And it occurred to me that this may be something like how we are or can be connected to people throughout the world.

I couldn't help compare it to a Buddhist ceremony that I have participated in several times, where a literal ball of twine is attached to the wrist of a Buddha statue, and then passed around to connect each and every participant as a way of feeling the connectedness that should exist between people.

Unfortunately, it seems that religions want to feel that connectedness only to people who think like they think.
This was very interesting. In going through the traditional ritual of the Eucharist (Communion) in the Episcopal Church, one of the things that drew me in is the feeling of "one-ness" that sometimes takes over after communion in our little motley group of Sunday show-ups. It doesn't happen every time, and you can't force it, but every so often there is a true sense of literal communion that seems to bind everyone in the room after we all do this weird ritual of going up to get dry circles of bread and take a sip of wine from a chalice.

Probably in earlier times, the same sense came over the community as the woolly mammoth fell to the ground and everyone went up to dip their finger in the blood and draw a line on their face.
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Old 11-28-2019, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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This was very interesting. In going through the traditional ritual of the Eucharist (Communion) in the Episcopal Church, one of the things that drew me in is the feeling of "one-ness" that sometimes takes over after communion in our little motley group of Sunday show-ups. It doesn't happen every time, and you can't force it, but every so often there is a true sense of literal communion that seems to bind everyone in the room after we all do this weird ritual of going up to get dry circles of bread and take a sip of wine from a chalice.

Probably in earlier times, the same sense came over the community as the woolly mammoth fell to the ground and everyone went up to dip their finger in the blood and draw a line on their face.
It can be very good when religion goes beyond ritual to actual community.
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Old 11-29-2019, 05:27 AM
 
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Are the "threads there", yes they are, they call it space/time these days. its clearly more valid to start at that statement. Can they influence us? yes, we need to be careful how far we go tho.

it doesn't take Eisenstein to see something more, not more gods is the most rational start to any lines of logic. At this point in time.
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Old 11-30-2019, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I thought this was pretty good. But I'm innocent of physics, despite my extensive collection of Einstein photos of him playing the violin, playing the piano, riding a bicycle at Princeton and at conferences. I don't enjoy reading his prose, either. So I have no idea if there is any sort of similarity between the stars and subatomic particles. Don't suppose there is any cosmological genius who could address the issue?

I didn't think so.
I’m not sure what you mean by similarity in this case but we can say with a high degree of certainty that there is a strong relationship between the nature of subatomic particles and the behavior of stars, galaxies and even of the universe itself.
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Old 11-30-2019, 08:25 AM
 
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I’m not sure what you mean by similarity in this case but we can say with a high degree of certainty that there is a strong relationship between the nature of subatomic particles and the behavior of stars, galaxies and even of the universe itself.
Hello Mr Einstein!
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Old 11-30-2019, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Hello Mr Einstein!
????

Definitely no Einstein, not even anything remotely resembling a physicist, especially a particle physicist or cosmologist. I’m one of those biologists that Lawrence Krauss keeps poking fun at in his talk.
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