That "something else" which is not god (believe, experience, worship)
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What is relevant is NOT so much what we know but what we accept as the default. That is a better indicia of our state of mind regarding God and the reason we exist.
The position -- in my viewpoint -- is that we know what many accept as the default, and we see that as a weakness.
What is relevant is NOT so much what we know but what we accept as the default. That is a better indicia of our state of mind regarding God and the reason we exist.
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Originally Posted by phetaroi
The position -- in my viewpoint -- is that we know what many accept as the default, and we see that as a weakness.
How is it a weakness to accept the default that we have a reason for our existence?
"a reason"...what does that mean? If I understand how you're using that, then I might be able to answer the question.
Don't be coy. Since we seem to be the only species we know of that possesses the capability to infer a purpose to our very existence, does that imply an overarching purpose is endemic to our existence. Any source for such a purpose would by definition qualify as our God.
Don't be coy. Since we seem to be the only species we know of that possesses the capability to infer a purpose to our very existence, does that imply an overarching purpose is endemic to our existence. Any source for such a purpose would by definition qualify as our God.
"our" god?
This is where the weakness comes in that Tzap is asking about.
You assume it is basically the christian god (as denoted by your capitalization of the word).
It could be the Hindu god.
It could be other spirits that are not god.
It could be our own intellect.
human life is not random.
it is by design.
it has purpose.
Human life is a simple result of natural processes. The term random does not apply. Random implies alternatives. There are none. When natural processes yield life-affirming conditions, abiogenesis will occur and life will result. And it will evolve and change over time. And cease to exist when it dies. It’s not amazing. It’s not wondrous. It’s not miraculous. It’s not a long shot. It’s just existence.
It is not designed. There is no creator. There is no designer. There is no extrinsic purpose. It is incoherent to ascribe purpose to inanimate matter or existence at large. Purpose is a label we put on the direction and activity that we choose for our own lives. There is no purpose to the universe, or the planet, or your life. Except what purpose you decide to create and execute as a living being. Which goes away the moment you are dead and cease to exist as a living being.
This is where the weakness comes in that Tzap is asking about.
You assume it is basically the christian god (as denoted by your capitalization of the word).
It could be the Hindu god.
It could be other spirits that are not god.
It could be our own intellect.
Pedantry. The basic default has nothing to do with any specifics. It is an either/or issue. Those who infer a purpose to human existence differ from those who do not but it is NOT a weakness. In what way do you see it as a weakness?
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