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Old 11-30-2019, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Pedantry. The basic default has nothing to do with any specifics. It is an either/or issue. Those who infer a purpose to human existence differ from those who do not but it is NOT a weakness. In what way do you see it as a weakness?
Alright, in YOU I think it is a weakness because you just come back to you imagined god.
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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Alright, in YOU I think it is a weakness because you just come back to you imagined god.
Try harder to be accurate. I come back to my EXPERIENCED God.
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Try harder to accurate. I come back to my EXPERIENCED God.
And that's fine for YOU.
It's not fine for others who believe differently.
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:41 PM
 
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And that's fine for YOU.
It's not fine for others who believe differently.
But as Tzaph reiterated, why is it a weakness?
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:43 PM
 
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But as Tzaph reiterated, why is it a weakness?
Because I feel it's a fallback to the culture you were raised in, rather than any actual contemplation.
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:50 PM
 
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Because I feel it's a fallback to the culture you were raised in, rather than any actual contemplation.
As an atheist, I did NOT acculturate in that way at all, so that doesn't apply. Besides, I spent decades in contemplation and reasoning after my experiences trying to make sense of it all to my intellect. Hardly a weakness.
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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human life is not random.
it is by design.
it has purpose.
"design" suggests a Designer, which is the position of someone who is religious. So stating that flatly borders on proselytizing, a no-no in this forum. Believe what you like, but at least qualify it with a "IMO."

There is no evidence whatsoever that human life is not random, it is by design, or that it has purpose. IMHO.

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Old 11-30-2019, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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As an atheist, I did NOT acculturate in that way at all, so that doesn't apply. Besides, I spent decades in contemplation and reasoning after my experiences trying to make sense of it all to my intellect. Hardly a weakness.
I understand your point of view.
I don't trust your thinking on it.
No need to continue.
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:58 PM
 
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"design" suggests a Designer, what is the position of someone who is religious. So stating that flatly borders on proselytizing, a no-no in this forum. Believe what you like, but at least qualify it with a "IMO."

There is no evidence whatsoever that human life is not random, it is by design, or that it has purpose. IMHO.
The uniqueness of possessing the very characteristic necessary to infer or posit purpose would mitigate against your assertion, IMNSHO.
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Old 11-30-2019, 03:02 PM
 
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As an atheist, I did NOT acculturate in that way at all, so that doesn't apply. Besides, I spent decades in contemplation and reasoning after my experiences trying to make sense of it all to my intellect. Hardly a weakness.
The problem with this response is that:

(a) the length of time someone does something ("decades") is not convincing with respect to whether something is true or not, and it is a logical fallacy to suggest it is; and

(b) it is obvious that you worship your own intellect and assume the rest of the peons in the forum should recognize this superiority. See:
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Dunning–Kruger effect:
(1) People of low ability are unaware or unable to think accurately about themselves and think more highly of themselves than they should; and
(2) conversely, those with high cognitive ability are unable to relate accurately to others and think that since it’s easy for me, it must be easy for everyone.

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein relatively unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate. The bias was first experimentally observed by David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University in 1999.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
As to (b), I for one am a little tired of it. Don't hold your breath.
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