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Old 08-10-2021, 09:29 AM
 
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That is an incredibly detailed reference section. As a matter of fact, the entire article is so complete that it should be required reading every time somebody comes to the forums and tries to suggest that evolution isn't real.
Agreed, and there is also a "non-technical" version for those who want (or need) an introduction to the topic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_evolution
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Old 08-10-2021, 09:46 AM
 
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Polystrate fossil prove my point. Trees standing up right with many layers all around them tightly to the tree itself. I remember seeing a fish fossil the same way. God didn't use evolution to make us.
you mean petrified trees that got more sediment deposited around them? Of course that can happen. Like I said ... when you are looking at the site, its clear what happened.

God couldn't do it ... hmmm ... God saying "poof there it is" is so much more reliable,.

My bad
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:18 AM
 
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You must first prove spontaneous generation, ...
Why, it has nothing to do with evolution, as can be explained in the science section.

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... then specie changing. How does it happen? I don't know. That's what you need to prove to me.
Evening Primrose, 1905, what you call macroevolution observed. The science behind it can be explained in the science section.

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I dont need suggestions, I need proof and so far you haven't given any.
The evidence I have pointed to can be explained in the science section.

And why am I doing the work here when you have given nothing but ad hominems and examples of your ignorance?

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You dont get it do you? I have to repeat myself over and over. You can't give it of you like, let someone else who is more sophisticated at this perhaps.
Why, even my basic knowledge is much more than yours will ever be.

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How did consciousness comes about? How did a heart develop in order to sustain life of inside something with all its complexity with veins and its circulation system? You must establish this for your case to be valid. Give me something.
No, it is time you gave something. I have given you links to the evidence we have and you do not. You can even Google these questions yourself. But you do not want to learn, you just want to pretend there are problems with evolution so you can claim victory by default, without doing any work. Such shallow thinking does not work, you need to provide evidence for your theory, and it must answer the questions better than that for evolution. But you do not have that evidence, that is why you evade those tricky questions you do not like, such as how does your god know things, how does it store things, and what is it's brain made of?

The fact is that you are another pretend intellectual discussing science in the wrong forum because you know you do not have any science to support your position.
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:22 AM
 
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Polystrate fossil prove my point. Trees standing up right with many layers all around them tightly to the tree itself. I remember seeing a fish fossil the same way. God didn't use evolution to make us.
Trees in soil. Flood kills tree. More floods lay more sediment. Eventually all (soil, tree, sediments) get fossilized. Polystrate fossil.

It IS that easy.
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:31 AM
 
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Why, it has nothing to do with evolution, as can be explained in the science section.



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In fact, as you know, spontaneous generation is pretty much the opposite of the concept of evolution.
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:38 AM
 
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Trees in soil. Flood kills tree. More floods lay more sediment. Eventually all (soil, tree, sediments) get fossilized. Polystrate fossil.

It IS that easy.
He also thinks a winter snow fall makes fossils of large mammals in short period of time. Even on mountains tjat experiece little snowfall.
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:45 AM
 
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Why, it has nothing to do with evolution, as can be explained in the science section.



Evening Primrose, 1905, what you call macroevolution observed. The science behind it can be explained in the science section.



The evidence I have pointed to can be explained in the science section.

And why am I doing the work here when you have given nothing but ad hominems and examples of your ignorance?



Why, even my basic knowledge is much more than yours will ever be.



No, it is time you gave something. I have given you links to the evidence we have and you do not. You can even Google these questions yourself. But you do not want to learn, you just want to pretend there are problems with evolution so you can claim victory by default, without doing any work. Such shallow thinking does not work, you need to provide evidence for your theory, and it must answer the questions better than that for evolution. But you do not have that evidence, that is why you evade those tricky questions you do not like, such as how does your god know things, how does it store things, and what is it's brain made of?

The fact is that you are another pretend intellectual discussing science in the wrong forum because you know you do not have any science to support your position.
Spontaneous generation has EVERYTHING to do with evolution. You are seeming to run from this like every agnostic I've come across. Nobody has ever proved either one. Genetics don't allow for new information to pop out of nothing, study genetics then come back to me about it to affirm I'm right. You don't possess enough knowledge to argue evolution with me.
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Old 08-10-2021, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Spontaneous generation has EVERYTHING to do with evolution. You are seeming to run from this like every agnostic I've come across. Nobody has ever proved either one. Genetics don't allow for new information to pop out of nothing, study genetics then come back to me about it to affirm I'm right. You don't possess enough knowledge to argue evolution with me.
No, it does not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_generation
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Old 08-10-2021, 11:02 AM
 
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Spontaneous generation has EVERYTHING to do with evolution. You are seeming to run from this like every agnostic I've come across. Nobody has ever proved either one. Genetics don't allow for new information to pop out of nothing, study genetics then come back to me about it to affirm I'm right. You don't possess enough knowledge to argue evolution with me.
Danny, you really need to go to the Wikipedia article that Harry linked and read it. Read the whole article. Anything that isn't clear, use the references. It's become abundantly clear that you don't know much about evolution. You have been given the information. Now use it.
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Old 08-10-2021, 11:06 AM
 
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Spontaneous generation has EVERYTHING to do with evolution. You are seeming to run from this like every agnostic I've come across. Nobody has ever proved either one.
Yes, I guess people do run from your ignorance.

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Genetics don't allow for new information to pop out of nothing, study genetics then come back to me about it to affirm I'm right.
Manfred Eigen hypercycles show that you are wrong. This can be explained in the science section. Study genetics instead of just making ignorant assertions.

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You don't possess enough knowledge to argue evolution with me.
You did not even know what HOX genes are or their role, which can be explained in the science section.
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