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Old 11-29-2009, 04:41 AM
 
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yeah stan , fear of abandonement...how dare they go on without me?
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Aah but this verse in context is speaking of the house of Israel and not the gentiles aka non believers. IIRC the command starts off with the preamble of, "Do not go the way of the gentiles but go rather to the house of Israel"

So by that I guess you lot should confine your efforts to pestering the Jewish people only. Good luck with that BTW, I am sure many of them know their own holy scrips better than 99% of xians.

The gentiles were considered to be unclean. That’s why they were told to not go to the gentiles.
Aah, but that verse was before Cornelius. Cornelius was a gentile and God himself told him to call for Peter. Peter says, “But God has shown me not to call any man common or unclean”
It’s in Acts chapter 10. That’s when it changed.
You should read it sometime. A fairly short chapter.

Nice try BTW.
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:48 PM
 
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Actually the opposite, the older and wiser I get the more the idea flies in the face of any reason, logic and free thinking. George Carlin said it very well;
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But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is ****ed up.
I have tried to ask, in sincerity, questions of "good christians" how they can possible believe in the whole enchilada of religion, only to receive a nonsensical response of mostly disconnected incoherent bible verse. I really think the brainwashing is so complete they actually cannot answer the tough questions.
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Actually the opposite, the older and wiser I get the more the idea flies in the face of any reason, logic and free thinking. George Carlin said it very well;

I have tried to ask, in sincerity, questions of "good christians" how they can possible believe in the whole enchilada of religion, only to receive a nonsensical response of mostly disconnected incoherent bible verse. I really think the brainwashing is so complete they actually cannot answer the tough questions.
Maybe they don't know the answers.
Religion has always dragged behind those that question their politics, bias, hatreds.

"Prove all things" has become. "Heed your leader/Pastor".



godspeed,

freedom
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:18 PM
 
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Maybe they don't know the answers.
They don't have a clue:

Albert Einstein summed up this level of 'follow the leader' non-thinking very accurately;
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He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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They don't have a clue:

Albert Einstein summed up this level of 'follow the leader' non-thinking very accurately;
I couldn't agree more. We have been given all the necessary tools for deep thinking (sans handicapped or injured) to ask questions and seek for answers.

Leading us to figuring out the best way....

To me this country has represented this type of freedom as well as any other and better than most. This forum is a fine example as well.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:56 PM
 
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To me this country has represented this type of freedom as well as any other and better than most. This forum is a fine example as well.
So that explains the Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika you have listed in your profile? I defend your right to say it, but it also clearly demonstrates the hypocrisy of your words.

What this subforum represents was best expressed by James Madison;
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."
- James Madison
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Old 11-29-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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So that explains the Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika you have listed in your profile? I defend your right to say it, but it also clearly demonstrates the hypocrisy of your words.
It could do that, it also could be that we entered into "Change". Which is why i used the word Has instead of Does. Though it is a broad brush comment either way.

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What this subforum represents was best expressed by James Madison;
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."
- James Madison
And does that make them more susceptible to God?


godspeed,

freedom
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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That's what happens with the brainwashing from birth, you are not to question or think for yourself, God works in mysterious ways, how dare you question him?... It's one of the biggest mistakes to ask why or how. I found out time and time again how they first discourage and then outright forbid questions. How can you expect answers from a person like that now or when they get older? It's probably scary to even think about trying to figure it out. The bible verses are the only answer they ever get an that's a mindless repeating of words.
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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That's what happens with the brainwashing from birth, you are not to question or think for yourself, God works in mysterious ways, how dare you question him?... It's one of the biggest mistakes to ask why or how. I found out time and time again how they first discourage and then outright forbid questions. How can you expect answers from a person like that now or when they get older? It's probably scary to even think about trying to figure it out. The bible verses are the only answer they ever get an that's a mindless repeating of words.
Do you think everyone that believes in God is brainwashed?

Thats billions of people. All brainwashed!


Regarding questioning God... Scripture says that He said to ASK, SEEK, and Knock.

To Prove ALL things.

If man is telling something different, then really man is to blame.
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