07-08-2010, 09:11 PM
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I've lived in Dallas and Atlanta and now live in boring old Indy. Dallas has no mall to compete with Lenox & Phipps. The North Park Center in Dallas is a poor representation of an upscale mall even though it is the most exclusive mall in the metro area.
PLEASE. i honestly do believe that both lenox and phipps are more architecturally appealing than northpark center, but there is no single mall in metro atlanta that is as upscale as northpark, nor do they have the world famous art exhibits showcased in the shopping center
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As far as neighborhoods, Atlanta wins again. Dallas is a flat,tree less city with homes on small lots. The city feels sterile and lacks character outside of Uptown. The Park Cities have nothing on Buckhead.
i wouldn't say that dallas has any less character than atlanta. they both have sterile, sprawling suburbs with interesting intown neighborhoods. atlanta definitely has dallas beat when it comes to natural beauty, but the idea that they aren't highly comparable in every other aspect is absolutely false. it's nobody's fault you never left plano
07-08-2010, 10:29 PM
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I've lived in Dallas and Atlanta and now live in boring old Indy. Dallas has no mall to compete with Lenox & Phipps. The North Park Center in Dallas is a poor representation of an upscale mall even though it is the most exclusive mall in the metro area.
Wow this is totally a different opinion of Dallas than I have ever heard from anyone. There are not a lot of people walking around urban Dallas County in cowboy gear, sorry. You may see some tourists from the country but thats gonna be it. Fort Worth definitely has more of a western vibe than Dallas. NorthPark is the nicest mall I have ever been to. As for the neighborhood argument, Uptown Dallas has a much more hip urban vibe to it than anything I've seen in Atlanta, especially with the historic trolleys running on the streets, the shopping and rows of bars and restaurants. The Park Cities/Buckhead comparison is apples and oranges. The Park Cities are going to be more like Beverly Hills than Buckhead. You arent going to find Wendys, Waffle House, McDonalds driving through the Park Cities. Buckhead is an unusual mixture of things (Rols Royce dealership with Krystal across the street and a waffle house next door). Sorry but someone had to be honest.
07-08-2010, 11:37 PM
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R1070 Buckhead is a city within itselfs live work play shop etc if u ever been to Beverly Hills u would see burger places like Mcdonalds in Beverly Hills and there is a wendys not far from it. No Atlanta doesn't have streets and streets of bars but there are pockets of it.. The entertainment in Atlanta I still better in my opinion.I understand you like Dallas more but everyone from Dallas is not going to have the same assessment that u have about Dallas.. And vice versa.. Yes Dallas has more boutiques but don't ever think Atlanta will be for behind. As the movies , media entertainment, buisness gets more widespread through city trust Atlanta is definately going to showcase....
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07-08-2010, 11:45 PM
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R1070 Buckhead is a city within itselfs live work play shop etc if u ever been to Beverly u would see burger places like Mcdonalds in Beverly Hills and there is a wendys not far from it.. Someone needed to correct u and tell u the truth..
Well I'm glad you cleared that up. I guess the Park Cities are more exclusive than even Beverly Hills then.
07-09-2010, 12:30 AM
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Well I'm glad you cleared that up. I guess the Park Cities are more exclusive than even Beverly Hills then.
Maybe it is but don't be surprised when u see one pop up every glitzy nieghborhood has some type of fast food joint. Even when I lived in Palm beach you saw them in the glitzy nieghborhoods...
07-09-2010, 01:58 AM
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PLEASE. i honestly do believe that both lenox and phipps are more architecturally appealing than northpark center, but there is no single mall in metro atlanta that is as upscale as northpark, nor do they have the world famous art exhibits showcased in the shopping center
Clearly you and I have a different defintion of upscale. I do not consider J Crew, Banana Republic, Abercrombie & Fitch and the likes as upscale.
As you know , North Park is full of these type of stores. Phipps does not stoop to North Park's level. This quote sums it best, "The South has spoken and the word is Phipps Plaza is among the best of the South! Phipps Plaza - named a "Southern Best" in
Southern Living magazine's Readers' Choice Awards."
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i wouldn't say that dallas has any less character than atlanta. they both have sterile, sprawling suburbs with interesting intown neighborhoods. atlanta definitely has dallas beat when it comes to natural beauty, but the idea that they aren't highly comparable in every other aspect is absolutely false. it's nobody's fault you never left plano
Actually I lived in Uptown in the Residences of the Ritz Carlton.
07-09-2010, 09:29 AM
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Clearly you and I have a different defintion of upscale. I do not consider J Crew, Banana Republic, Abercrombie & Fitch and the likes as upscale. As you know , North Park is full of these type of stores. Phipps does not stoop to North Park's level. This quote sums it best, "The South has spoken and the word is Phipps Plaza is among the best of the South! Phipps Plaza - named a "Southern Best" in Southern Living magazine's Readers' Choice Awards."
yeah you're right. barney's new york, nordstrom, neiman marcus, bvlgari, cartier, caroline herrera, cole haan, debeers, kate spade, louis vuitton, oscar de la renta, ralph lauren, salvatore ferragamo, versace, etc. these are just your average, run-of-the-mill discount retailers
.
phipps plaza has less than half the size of retail floor space as northpark, and the only reason NP has more "non-exclusive" shops is because phipps shares them with lenox. they're practically northpark split in half. oh, and by the way, phipps only has a barneys new york
CO-OP ...northpark has the
ACTUAL barneys
and don't forget that dallas has highland park village, the most exclusive shopping destination in the south outside of miami
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Actually I lived in Uptown in the Residences of the Ritz Carlton.
well you obviously didn't spend enough time around the city or else you wouldn't be saying it has no character
07-09-2010, 12:06 PM
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The Phipps/Lenox vs NorthPark Comparison is a little off because NorthPark Center is the size of Lenox and Phipps combined. Also, Highland Park Village is very high end. I think Galleria Dallas is more akin to what Lenox is. Phipps does have mostly higher end stores but also has Limited Too and perhaps a couple other mid ranged stores like Armani Exchange. Phipps is rarely busy though, perhaps they should mix up their tenant list some. NorthPark had a lot higher percentage of mid to high end stores and got a lot of complaints that the shopping options were not diverse enough, so they have opened other types of stores and it is very profitable. The mall is organized in sections with like stores being next to each other. The NorthPark people have done very well with this mall. The overall shopping experience there cannot be matched with the original art pieces throughout, the center park in the middle of the mall and the lack of kiosks and diverse store mixture.
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That person above u is getting defensive... I know dallas has more boutiques.. My defense is everyone isn't walking around everyday in Oscar del a renta.. Even the hip hop artist around Atlanta are into fashion Andre 3000 B.O.B.. Etc When I look at being a fashion forward city I look at stores high profile events and how people dress on a day to day bases.. They only defense you guys have to that is we have Dior and we are home to Nieman Marcus..so we are much more fashionable city. Clearly when u look around Dallas that's not what u see on a day to day bases.. Personally I like independent boutique shopping. And discount shopping Im a big energie, bloomies, zara, H&M nordstroms rack,club Monaco, metropark fan.. They can have the valentinos and Armani's.. I work in the entertainment industry so I'm always back and forth from LA Atl NYC and DC.. I'm always at high profile events and see fashion for what it is...
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07-09-2010, 03:50 PM
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That person above u is getting defensive... I know dallas has more boutiques.. My defense is everyone isn't walking around everyday in Oscar del a renta.. Even the hip hop artist around Atlanta are into fashion Andre 3000 B.O.B.. Etc When I look at being a fashion forward city I look at stores high profile events and how people dress on a day to day bases.. They only defense you guys have to that is we have Dior and we are home to Nieman Marcus..so we are much more fashionable city. Clearly when u look around Dallas that's not what u see on a day to day bases.. Personally I like independent boutique shopping. And discount shopping Im a big energie, bloomies, zara, H&M nordstroms rack,club Monaco, metropark fan.. They can have the valentinos and Armani's.. I work in the entertainment industry so I'm always back and forth from LA Atl NYC and DC.. I'm always at high profile events and see fashion for what it is...
it depends where you are as whether or not you'll see it on a daily basis. if you spend most of your time in the west village, parts of downtown, lakewood, preston hollow, etc. then fashion will be all around you. but if you're mostly in arlington or mesquite, probably not as much. and it's the same way in atlanta, so let's not act like it isn't. just like dallas having more exclusive shopping doesn't make it more fashionable, atlanta having more celebrities doesn't make it more fashionable either. and dallas also has a lot of independent boutiques as well. they don't call it a fashion capital for nothing
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People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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