The Coming Ponce De Leon Traffic Disaster. (Atlanta: move, transportation)

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by StAubin

It's true that most people drive, which is exactly why the city is investing heavily in alternative infrastructure as a way to alter the status quo.

I guess the question is whether the city should support what the vast majority of residents do or try to modify their behaviour.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I guess the question is whether the city should support what the vast majority of residents do or try to modify their behaviour.

We need to get away from modifying residents behavior where we are doing things like using billions of tax dollars to build free super highways with a dozen+ lanes and requiring every property owner in the metro area to use their land and money to build parking spaces.

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by residinghere2007

But I was thinking, while stuck in traffic, that I actually don't think it is a good idea to take away a lane of traffic on Ponce since there are a lot of right turners who take forever to turn and by taking away one lane for bikers and turning, it would force all cars to have to wait for right turners, especially at Moreland/Briarcliff and Ponce and would still be a traffic mess at that intersection due to that.

According to the article and map, this project doesn't remove lanes on Ponce anywhere near Moreland/Briarcliff. And as StAubin pointed out, they're also not touching the eastern part of Ponce in Druid Hills toward Decatur that you complained about.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by jsvh

We need to get away from modifying residents behavior where we are doing things like using billions of tax dollars to build free super highways with a dozen+ lanes and requiring every property owner in the metro area to use their land and money to build parking spaces.

We haven't built a new freeway in Atlanta since about 1980 and probably never will again.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by shivtim

According to the article and map, this project doesn't remove lanes on Ponce anywhere near Moreland/Briarcliff. And as StAubin pointed out, they're also not touching the eastern part of Ponce in Druid Hills toward Decatur that you complained about.

Any bike rider without a death wish would loop around the southern end of the linear parks anyway....

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by Gulch

We haven't built a new freeway in Atlanta since about 1980 and probably never will again.

You sure about that?

Freedom Parkway in the late 80s
GA400 I-85 to I-285 in early 90's
Ronald Reagan Parkway in mid 90's
GA316 is being actively converted to a freeway
GDOT working on plans to connect 675 and 400 under East Atlanta

Those are just the ones off the top of my head.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by jsvh

You sure about that?

Freedom Parkway in the late 80s
GA400 I-85 to I-285 in early 90's
Ronald Reagan Parkway in mid 90's
GA316 is being actively converted to a freeway
GDOT working on plans to connect 675 and 400 under East Atlanta

Those are just the ones off the top of my head.

I do believe the poster was referring to the COA and not the metro area. He did miss 400 of course, but Freedom Parkway is hardly a freeway and the connection of 675 and 400 underground is a pipe dream that ain't gonna happen.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

I do believe the poster was referring to the COA and not the metro area. He did miss 400 of course, but Freedom Parkway is hardly a freeway and the connection of 675 and 400 underground is a pipe dream that ain't gonna happen.

Either way it was wrong

Point is, dumping money into more and more freeways and road lanes has been tried in Atlanta. It does not help traffic in the medium or long term.

[StAubin]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I guess the question is whether the city should support what the vast majority of residents do or try to modify their behaviour.

The city can not support any more automobile growth. We have to build alternatives for sustainability. People will use alternatives when available, bicycle commuting is growing faster in atlanta than anywhere else. We need to encourage that growth.

[Atlwarrior]

Originally Posted by gerrythesnake

You know people on here love hyping stuff up

I wouldn't call it hype. I generally go the Whole Foods after work around 3:30 pm , and traffic is generally very heavy on Ponce around that time. I just wonder when Ponce City Market open how much worst it will be.