52 miles of HOT lanes being built with plans to serve expanded GRTA routes (Tucker: live, buses)

[cqholt]

SaportaReport | 52 miles of managed lanes being built with plans to serve expanded transit bus system
GRTA has plans to expand bus service and even run all day service from Town Center, Sugarloaf Mills, and Lithonia to Downtown/Midtown.
GRTA has plans to run Xpress Buses to the Airport.
Buses and stops are planned to be outfitted with GPS data and live arrival times.

[ATLTJL]

What is exactly meant by "managed lane?"

Anybody who commutes on I-85 knows that HOT lanes are a joke. I've experimented with them for a couple of years now, and under ideal circumstances, you can save about 10 minutes between Chamblee Tucker and Sugarloaf Parkway. Most times, you save a bit less. Sometimes, you save nothing at all.

If GRTA thinks that people are going to ride buses to save a maximum of 10 minutes, and possibly zero, it's got another thing coming.

The only way to get people to ride transit is with right of way. If the buses had dedicated lanes that were physically separate from the highway (so jerk drivers couldn't use them when they felt like it) and the trip from Sugarloaf to I-285 was a completely reliable 15 or 20 minutes completely regardless of what traffic was doing, the idea might have a shot. But I don't think that's what we're talking about here.

As Taylor Swift says on the radio, "Band-aids don't fix bullet holes."

This is a joke and a waste of time and money that could be invested in actual meaningful projects.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by ATLTJL

What is exactly meant by "managed lane?"

Anybody who commutes on I-85 knows that HOT lanes are a joke.

All future HOT managed lane proposals are physically separated from mainline traffic (there will be no more I-85-type projects).

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by ATLTJL

What is exactly meant by "managed lane?"

Anybody who commutes on I-85 knows that HOT lanes are a joke. I've experimented with them for a couple of years now, and under ideal circumstances, you can save about 10 minutes between Chamblee Tucker and Sugarloaf Parkway. Most times, you save a bit less. Sometimes, you save nothing at all.

If GRTA thinks that people are going to ride buses to save a maximum of 10 minutes, and possibly zero, it's got another thing coming.

The only way to get people to ride transit is with right of way. If the buses had dedicated lanes that were physically separate from the highway (so jerk drivers couldn't use them when they felt like it) and the trip from Sugarloaf to I-285 was a completely reliable 15 or 20 minutes completely regardless of what traffic was doing, the idea might have a shot. But I don't think that's what we're talking about here.

As Taylor Swift says on the radio, "Band-aids don't fix bullet holes."

This is a joke and a waste of time and money that could be invested in actual meaningful projects.

Did you really just quote Taylor Swift on here?

[flamadiddle]

Originally Posted by ATLTJL

What is exactly meant by "managed lane?"

Anybody who commutes on I-85 knows that HOT lanes are a joke. I've experimented with them for a couple of years now, and under ideal circumstances, you can save about 10 minutes between Chamblee Tucker and Sugarloaf Parkway. Most times, you save a bit less. Sometimes, you save nothing at all.

If GRTA thinks that people are going to ride buses to save a maximum of 10 minutes, and possibly zero, it's got another thing coming.

The only way to get people to ride transit is with right of way. If the buses had dedicated lanes that were physically separate from the highway (so jerk drivers couldn't use them when they felt like it) and the trip from Sugarloaf to I-285 was a completely reliable 15 or 20 minutes completely regardless of what traffic was doing, the idea might have a shot. But I don't think that's what we're talking about here.

As Taylor Swift says on the radio, "Band-aids don't fix bullet holes."

This is a joke and a waste of time and money that could be invested in actual meaningful projects.

Couldn't agree more. The last time I drove to the airport via I-85, the HOT lanes were not moving any faster than regular lanes. Unless they will be dedicated to bus traffic only, this is a joke.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by flamadiddle

Couldn't agree more. The last time I drove to the airport, the HOT lanes were not moving any faster than regular lanes. Unless they will be dedicated to bus traffic only, this is a joke.

See in the future you can take an Xpress bus to the airport.

[flamadiddle]

Originally Posted by cqholt

See in the future you can take an Xpress bus to the airport.

So the Xpress bus will have a dedicated lane? or are they just going to call it Xpress and shove it in the same lane as all other HOT traffic?

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by flamadiddle

So the Xpress bus will have a dedicated lane? or are they just going to call it Xpress and shove it in the same lane as all other HOT traffic?

The buses will use the existing 85 HOT lanes, but all new HOT Lanes are physically separated from traffic expect for the use of slip ramps.

[ATLTJL]

Did you really just quote Taylor Swift on here?

It had to be done!!!!!

The buses will use the existing 85 HOT lanes, but all new HOT Lanes are physically separated from traffic expect for the use of slip ramps.

I don't think separation will solve anything. If others can use it, they will. The buses will have no way to move through traffic faster than anybody else, so why would anyone go through the trouble of rising a bus?

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by cqholt

SaportaReport | 52 miles of managed lanes being built with plans to serve expanded transit bus system
GRTA has plans to expand bus service and even run all day service from Town Center, Sugarloaf Mills, and Lithonia to Downtown/Midtown.
GRTA has plans to run Xpress Buses to the Airport.
Buses and stops are planned to be outfitted with GPS data and live arrival times.

Way to go, GRTA!