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Old 04-10-2018, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Waze says the no traffic time for Cumberland to Perimeter is 13 minutes minimum. At right about 9 miles, with an average speed of just 35mph, a dedicated RoW transit system (BRT, LRT, or HRT) would take 15 minutes, and put your start and end walking distance at no worse. The key difference is at rush hour, any fully dedicated RoW mode will still take 15 minutes, maybe BRT will be slower if it has fully shared lanes at either end, but that's it.
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Old 04-10-2018, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Very important to remember, there is $0 dedicated year-to-year state funding for transit.
Being an optimist here, but this was a big step for a conservative legislature. If dedicated funding was included this probably wouldn't have passed. I think dedicated state funding isn't too far away.
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Waze says the no traffic time for Cumberland to Perimeter is 13 minutes minimum. At right about 9 miles, with an average speed of just 35mph, a dedicated RoW transit system (BRT, LRT, or HRT) would take 15 minutes, and put your start and end walking distance at no worse. The key difference is at rush hour, any fully dedicated RoW mode will still take 15 minutes, maybe BRT will be slower if it has fully shared lanes at either end, but that's it.
If it shared lanes, then it wouldn't be BRT. #BRTcreep
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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Being an optimist here, but this was a big step for a conservative legislature. If dedicated funding was included this probably wouldn't have passed. I think dedicated state funding isn't too far away.
It may still be a few years before we get a dedicated long-term state source of funds, but unless the next governor is super anti-transit, I think there will be consistent funding year to year. A dedicated source would be better, of course, but I think you're right that it is far more likely to happen than it might have been a few years ago.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:13 AM
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If it shared lanes, then it wouldn't be BRT. #BRTcreep
You don't seem to have any experience with real HOT/HOV lanes (not the cheap imitation GDOT does with everything-painting double stripes). Houston's HOV lanes always go 55 except when there is an accident. And that's pretty rare.

Shared HOT/HOV lanes are the way to go because you get carpools, vans and buses all using the lane, not just a single BRT vehicle. Many, many times more people use carpools and vanpools than walk or bike. As I recall, its a similar % of the people who use mass transit in Atlanta. We should provide more good options, not fewer.
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Old 04-13-2018, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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If it shared lanes, then it wouldn't be BRT. #BRTcreep
Oh so the TGV isn't high speed rail because it shares a few miles of track with conventional speed trains? #HSRcreep

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Old 04-13-2018, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Oh so the TGV isn't high speed rail because it shares a few miles of track with conventional speed trains? #HSRcreep
If the express buses shared bus-only right of way with local buses, then I think you'd have more of a point here.

It'd be more like if the TGV had to use in-street rails to get through the last few miles via busy Paris streets. At that point, yeah, it wouldn't be much of an HSR system.
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Old 04-13-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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If the express buses shared bus-only right of way with local buses, then I think you'd have more of a point here.

It'd be more like if the TGV had to use in-street rails to get through the last few miles via busy Paris streets. At that point, yeah, it wouldn't be much of an HSR system.
A train line, let's call it Abela for this discussion, shouldn't claim to be "High-speed Rail" if it shares tracks that are limited to 25mph.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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A train line, let's call it Abela for this discussion, shouldn't claim to be "High-speed Rail" if it shares tracks that are limited to 25mph.
I don't disagree at all.
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Old 04-17-2018, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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MARTA receives $3.6M grant from FTA
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MARTA will use the funding to upgrade and replace 40-foot diesel-fueled buses with 60-foot Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) buses used on high capacity ridership bus routes in central and south DeKalb County. The new, environmentally friendly buses, will be stationed in central DeKalb County at the Laredo Bus Depot in Scottdale. They will be used to improve and enhance service on MARTA Route 121, which connects riders to the Avondale Station and the city of Stone Mountain.
https://leadership.saportareport.com...for-new-buses/
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