Atlanta mayoral race: Poll shows Mary Norwood with early lead (Clayton: racist, mayor)

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by Cameron H

For the last time, we don't need a "test" because black voters voting for white candidates has long been the norm, not the exception. I hope we'll continue to recruit increasingly diverse candidates for all races from the local, to state, to national level. Once that becomes the norm, perhaps we'll see less voting along racial lines...but we have a long way to go.

When it comes to Mayor yes we absolutely need to test. You seem to be having a hard time following this.

[Cameron H]

Originally Posted by ronricks

It really comes down to White people have proven both in Mayoral elections in Atlanta (Jackson, Young, Campbell, Franklin, Reed) and in Presidential elections (Obama) that they will vote for a Black candidate. Black people have not proven the same thing. Will the Black vote in Atlanta prove that they as a group are willing to vote for someone who looks different than them? Time will tell.

Originally Posted by ronricks

When it comes to Mayor yes we absolutely need to test. You seem to be having a hard time following this.

I can't follow it because you keep moving the goalposts. White people apparently "proved" something by voting for Obama (even though he never won a majority of the white vote), but black voters need to be "tested" even though they've repeatedly voted in large majorities for white candidates?

Name all the black candidates for governor who won a majority of the white vote? Not in Georgia, obviously (haha), but anywhere? I've got Deval Patrick, in Massachusetts. Got anyone else?

So why is it again that black voters need to be "tested"?

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by Cameron H

I can't follow it because you keep moving the goalposts. White people apparently "proved" something by voting for Obama (even though he never won a majority of the white vote), but black voters need to be "tested" even though they've repeatedly voted in large majorities for white candidates?

Name all the black candidates for governor who won a majority of the white vote? Not in Georgia, obviously (haha), but anywhere? I've got Deval Patrick, in Massachusetts. Got anyone else?

So why is it again that black voters need to be "tested"?

What is the title of this thread? It is about the Mayor of Atlanta. When was the last white candidate to get any significant portion of the Black vote in Atlanta? President Obama would not have been elected without support and votes from White people. What do you not understand about that? Yes in 2017 with a diverse and qualified group of candidates in Atlanta it is time for this to be tested.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by ronricks

What is the title of this thread? It is about the Mayor of Atlanta. When was the last white candidate to get any significant portion of the Black vote in Atlanta?

I'd say Mary Norwood. She probably got 20-25% of the black vote, even in a one-on-one against a popular and well known candidate like Kasim Reed.

Before that it was probably Sam Massell.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I'd say Mary Norwood. She probably got 20-25% of the black vote, even in a one-on-one against a popular and well known candidate like Kasim Reed.

Before that it was probably Sam Massell.

Massell left office 43 years ago. Norwood got 15% of the Black vote in the runoff. 85%-15% is a big disparity wouldn't you say?

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Massell left office 43 years ago. Norwood got 15% of the Black vote in the runoff. 85%-15% is a big disparity wouldn't you say?

Okay, I was under the impression that Norwood polled about 21-23% in black precincts.

No doubt that's a big disparity. But it still indicates thousands of black people voting for a white candidate in a one-on-one race against a popular and well known black candidate.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Okay, I was under the impression that Norwood polled about 21-23% in black precincts.

No doubt that's a big disparity. But it still indicates thousands of black people voting for a white candidate in a one-on-one race against a popular and well known black candidate.

Norwood polled at 20% in the general election and then 15% in the runoff. No doubt Reed was a popular qualified candidate who I voted for and would vote for again if he were not term limited.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Norwood polled at 20% in the general election and then 15% in the runoff. No doubt Reed was a popular qualified candidate who I voted for and would vote for again if he were not term limited.

Okay.

Not challenging you but where'd you get that data? I was looking at the 11Alive map that I posted earlier but it could well be wrong.

[fieldm]

Is she still trying to stop new highrises from being built if they block the view of other highrises???

[cafeaulazy2017]

I'm black and if i were old enough to vote in 2009, i would have voted for Mary Norwood because she supported gay marriage while Kasim Reed was against it back then.