Special Election - 6th Congressional District (Decatur: sold, water, manager)

[JPD]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Blaming the Russians is laughable and reeks of being a sore loser.

Or it could be that there is legitimate concern than a foreign country is meddling in our election.

The fact that that doesn't seem to bother supporters of Trump is quite frightening.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Lets not forget all the shenanigans that went on with helping Hillary get the nomination over Bernie Sanders who if anyone has a legit gripe it is him.

A point that was easily forgotten by many and another factor in her loss. The revelations around this disaffected many younger voters that had supported him.

[Cameron H]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

A point that was easily forgotten by many and another factor in her loss. The revelations around this disaffected many younger voters that had supported him.

Yes. How were these "revelations" brought to light? Almost without exception, from internal DNC emails stolen and distributed through Wikileaks by Russian-government hackers. It's almost as if the Russian espionage campaign really did interfere in the election. Gasp!

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by Cameron H

I'm truly uncertain whether you're being willfully ignorant or coming by it honestly. I'm not "blaming the Russians" for tipping the outcome of the election, since I don't claim to know if their espionage campaign to influence the election actually tipped the outcome.

I do "blame the Russians" (the Russian government, to be precise) for waging an espionage campaign to interfere with our election. I do hope we'll take action to make it less likely to happen in the future, and I hope any American operatives who colluded in this effort will be held accountable ("Lock Him Up!).

As for being a "sore loser," I'm an upper-middle-class, straight, white, middle-aged man who works in the banking industry. Short of an inept president starting a nuclear war, I am, as always, very likely to win.

Other than changing the votes there is nothing they could have done unless you think Russians have the ability to have some form of mind control over the American voter? So, if that isn't your argument then yes it comes across as being a crybaby sore loser. Comey who is an American last time I checked was much more destructive to Hillary. But lets be real about this the most destructive things were done by Hillary herself and the people around her. She ran a horrid campaign.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by Cameron H

Yes. How were these "revelations" brought to light? Almost without exception, from internal DNC emails stolen and distributed through Wikileaks by Russian-government hackers. It's almost as if the Russian espionage campaign really did interfere in the election. Gasp!

Did the Russians type those emails? Again, it is more damage done by people who did not properly secure their emails. Does that sound familiar? How does thousands of Hillary's emails end up on Anthony Weiner's computer? Did the Russians do that also? Do you see the problem here?

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by Cameron H

Yes. How were these "revelations" brought to light? Almost without exception, from internal DNC emails stolen and distributed through Wikileaks by Russian-government hackers. It's almost as if the Russian espionage campaign really did interfere in the election. Gasp!

This whole business of shooting the messenger is mere deflection from the fact that the truth willed out. Frankly, I don't much care how the message found its' way to me. It's like when you confront a philandering husband about his latest escapade and he responds, "WHO told you that?".

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by JPD

Or it could be that there is legitimate concern than a foreign country is meddling in our election.

The fact that that doesn't seem to bother supporters of Trump is quite frightening.

Simple questions:

Did the Russians hack the voting machines and change votes?

Did the Russians use mind control or some other form of sorcery/magic to turn American voters into thoughtless drones and make them go and vote for Trump?

Which was more of a factor the 'Russians' or Comey?

[Cameron H]

Now that we know hacking of voting machine and mind control are the only ways to affect public opinion, we can safely eliminate all political campaign spending, rallies and other campaign events, canvassing, phone banking, media coverage of candidates, the advertising industry, political propaganda and disinformation, and possibly organized religion.

That's a pretty solid day's work.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by Cameron H

Now that we know hacking of voting machine and mind control are the only ways to affect public opinion, we can safely eliminate all political campaign spending, rallies and other campaign events, canvassing, phone banking, media coverage of candidates, the advertising industry, political propaganda and disinformation, and possibly organized religion.

That's a pretty solid day's work.

How about had we run someone who didn't have 10,000 pounds of baggage like Hillary did say VP Biden or Bernie Sanders we may have won? Have you ever sat and thought about that?

[JOinGA]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Simple questions:

Did the Russians hack the voting machines and change votes?

Did the Russians use mind control or some other form of sorcery/magic to turn American voters into thoughtless drones and make them go and vote for Trump?

Which was more of a factor the 'Russians' or Comey?

There certainly was a large segment of the population that behaved as thoughtless drones. In fact, they are still chanting "Lock Her Up!" and "Build That Wall!" paid for by "Mexico!" even as it has become abundantly clear that neither of these things is going to happen.