Should Atlanta Consider a Move Like Oslo? (Decatur: apartments, asbestos)

[krogerDisco]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

Again you pretty much ignore post and rather just reply

1. It's the pedestrians neighborhoods of course the fucos is on them. Your giving priority to people driving though other people neighborhood than the people in the neighborhoods itself walking.

2. There no such thing as car oriented core of a major city. Your saying it's a small area it's big enough for what your saying to be a waist of billions of dollars. It cause less and will be economically feasible to just continue to infill which what the market is calling for anyways.

The area is about somewhere between the area size of D.C., Paris, San Francisco, pittsburgh and Minneapolis. Apparently a lot can be done in that area.

3. These neighborhoods are national register of historic places. There will huge push back for residents.

4. Your also asking Atlanta city tax to pay give money to do something they don't want to be done.

You seem to be confused to what residents of these neighborhoods want, they don't want their neighborhoods more car oriented they want their community more urban and walkable. So who are you arguing for?

So what your saying counter neighborhood planing groups, counter Atlanta history and layout and counter the market which is infilling.

What Atlanta neighborhood is slated for infill and becoming more "urban"? I thought Atlanta was clinging to being a "city in a forest". So what is it going to be, an urban city or a forest?

[Beretta]

Originally Posted by krogerDisco

What Atlanta neighborhood is slated for infill and becoming more "urban"? I thought Atlanta was clinging to being a "city in a forest". So what is it going to be, an urban city or a forest?

Ah grasshopper, it doesn't have to be either/or. The question at hand is should Atlanta consider a move like Oslo.

[JMatl]

Originally Posted by krogerDisco

So how big is the "core". Boundaries?

You used to live here, you tell us where you think your car sewer proposal fits in with our supposedly 'small core.' We want to hear what an enlightened former resident thinks the boundaries are.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by krogerDisco

What Atlanta neighborhood is slated for infill and becoming more "urban"? I thought Atlanta was clinging to being a "city in a forest". So what is it going to be, an urban city or a forest?

It's not an either or, Atlanta can become more urban and retain it's greeness.

First off Downtown, Midtown, And West Midtown, aren't Atlanta leafy neighborhoods. They pretty much can just infill and add mid rise, which they are threads on these projects.


Second there a lot of brown field that old warhouse districts, Several projects in Atlanta such Atlantic station, and Iman Park village, Ponce City Market and Historic 4th ward park area were brownfield, and Atlanta being an old rail town as a lot of it. In fact the Atlanta beltline projects is one of the largest urban projects in country.

third there commercial areas such as Virginia-Highland, and East Atlanta village, that can be add on.


Fourth now lets talk about the leafy neighborhoods, most American cities core are dense single family homes,



New Orleans

this is cleveland





Atlanta can have that density and still be forested.

All the pics below are Atlanta.....





this pic is crazy forested, but if you pay attention, it's just a close on the street and and have similar home lot size as the Cleveland pic...

//www.city-data.com/forum/atlan...eep-top-8.html

So no Atlanta doesn't have to sacrifice it's leafy identity to infill

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by cqholt

So no Atlanta doesn't have to sacrifice it's leafy identity to infill

Picture 6 is nice (and doesn't look dense). Pictures 4 and 5 are meh. Pictures 1-3 are just depressing.

[krogerDisco]

Originally Posted by JMatl

You used to live here, you tell us where you think your car sewer proposal fits in with our supposedly 'small core.' We want to hear what an enlightened former resident thinks the boundaries are.

Mostly downtown hugging Peachtree and throw in Fairlie Poplar. Move away from that, urbanity is quickly lost. And I'm guessing you have no idea what Atlanta's old "core" is?

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

It's not an either or, Atlanta can become more urban and retain it's greeness.

First off Downtown, Midtown, And West Midtown, aren't Atlanta leafy neighborhoods. They pretty much can just infill and add mid rise, which they are threads on these projects.

Midtown west of Piedmont is very much a leafy neighborhood of single family homes. In my opinion we should take care to preserve this.

[krogerDisco]

Originally Posted by Beretta

Ah grasshopper, it doesn't have to be either/or. The question at hand is should Atlanta consider a move like Oslo.

So how do you achieve "urbanity" in a forest? And you should know how threads can wander as people argue finer points that were made.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by krogerDisco

So how do you achieve "urbanity" in a forest? And you should know how threads can wander as people argue finer points that were made.

I think chiatldal's photos make a pretty good case on how to do it.

[krogerDisco]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

I think chiatldal's photos make a pretty good case on how to do it.

If anything, it removes an urban look.