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Old 06-26-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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Who's "we"?
51% of the people living in ATL
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Old 06-26-2018, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Ca$hville via Atlanta
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This is not a badge of honor. Between traffic, water, insufficient transit, disrepair infrastructure... I don't really think adding a gazillion more folks to the region is necessarily a great thing right now. I hope it all bodes better than I fear.
Agreed!!!I think even though many may see this as a Badge of Honor, Atlanta is still not on the same level as Philly. Not to cut Atlanta down but Philly is a dense million city at city limit level with Transit and Infrastructure decades ahead of Atlanta. Philly is a dense NE city looked at more closely with NY even though it's much smaller than NY. I know we like to talk Metro population is what matters over city limit but I think with this Philly and Atlanta case this is slightly different where all scenarios are not created equal even if Atlanta does surpass.. We all know Atlanta will be gaining all of it's population from here to Hazzard county, to hillbilly alley back down to city and back,, pure suburban sprawl, with some gains in the city. The Delaware valley/ Tristate area is far more dense and has Satellite cities like Wilmington and Trenton in it's mist. I just don't see where this takes anything away from Philly and Gives an Award to Atlanta for being a bigger and better city, especially under current circumstances. Philly is way more equipt to handle its population
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Old 06-26-2018, 01:38 PM
 
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Aside from the fact that metro Atlanta actually is adding more people, there are no real natural barriers to growth in the region nor is there a larger metro nearby that it bumps up against and those are issues for Philly. Honestly it really sucks for Philly but if the OMB revises any of the criteria associated with the designation of metropolitan areas, that may keep Philly from slipping down the list so fast. If it happens to win HQ2 (and it is a strong candidate with one of the best proposed sites), that would be immensely helpful in boosting the region's growth.
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Old 06-26-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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51% of the people living in ATL
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Old 06-26-2018, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Ca$hville via Atlanta
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Aside from the fact that metro Atlanta actually is adding more people, there are no real natural barriers to growth in the region nor is there a larger metro nearby that it bumps up against and those are issues for Philly. Honestly it really sucks for Philly but if the OMB revises any of the criteria associated with the designation of metropolitan areas, that may keep Philly from slipping down the list so fast. If it happens to win HQ2 (and it is a strong candidate with one of the best proposed sites), that would be immensely helpful in boosting the region's growth.

You make some great points, but these are all predictions anyway.. Who really knows which way the chips may fall, no one really does until these census reports are released and some times they are wrong. I think people do like the hype of it all though! My biggest concern with the census as a side note is our immigrant population getting under counted due to fear, that's going to hurt a lot of cities big time in under count!
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:15 PM
 
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I personally have no doubt Atlanta will become large, possibly even a contender to Chicago .. but...that doesn't necessarily mean that Atlanta will become efficient. It has a long way to go in that category.
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:02 PM
 
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You make some great points, but these are all predictions anyway.. Who really knows which way the chips may fall, no one really does until these census reports are released and some times they are wrong. I think people do like the hype of it all though! My biggest concern with the census as a side note is our immigrant population getting under counted due to fear, that's going to hurt a lot of cities big time in under count!
Good point about immigrants, especially with the current occupant of the Oval Office in power.
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Old 06-26-2018, 05:18 PM
 
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Noting all the commenters on the same link noted how Atlanta's MSA is heavily inflated due to all the extra counties they recently included within it compared to what it was 2 decades ago, thus accounting for a LARGE portion of its growth rates. In truth just about all of those cities have sprawl just as deep and far as Atlanta does, with the difference being not as many needing to commute to the urban core as they do in Atlanta...thus those areas are not included within their MSA.

I did find a pretty interesting photo though.
We been through this rual counties don't randomly grew a 100,000 plus people. Those counties are growing because they are part of the metro area. There nothing "inflated" about anything. A county must have 25% commute rate to be connected in a MSA.
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Old 06-26-2018, 05:51 PM
 
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For those who don't believe that Atlanta becoming the country's 8th largest metropolitan area is an accomplishment in its own right, consider that Atlanta was a small, fairly provincial place in the mid 20th century and the city's leaders consciously set out to make it a large metropolitan area with global influence. Generations of Atlantans took on that goal and succeeded. Of course we face problems brought on by that growth going forward, but this place didn't become a top 10 metro without a lot of effort.
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Old 06-26-2018, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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For those who don't believe that Atlanta becoming the country's 8th largest metropolitan area is an accomplishment in its own right, consider that Atlanta was a small, fairly provincial place in the mid 20th century and the city's leaders consciously set out to make it a large metropolitan area with global influence. Generations of Atlantans took on that goal and succeeded. Of course we face problems brought on by that growth going forward, but this place didn't become a top 10 metro without a lot of effort.
Largest 10 is not really the same thing as Top 10, let's keep in mind. Houston is the 5th largest metro, and I'd much prefer to live in Seattle, any day of the week, which is the 15th largest.
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