04-23-2008, 04:23 PM
Location: Atlanta, GA
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04-23-2008, 04:25 PM
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Originally Posted by
MMANN
Well if they dont expand it to the suburbs, it will remain as it is today: useless for the majority of Atlantans. If people actually want to get commuters to ride marta, it needs to go to where people live: the suburbs.
For Marta to be such a "useless" system that doesn't go anywhere, it sure attracts a lot of riders. 451,064 people a day to be exact.
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Originally posted by Frankie117 I stand by the fact that MARTA is light rail. MARTA is not a subway, although subways, EL, etc. all use the same style cars (once again going back to standard design and standard gauge). Light rail is a term used to describe ANY rail that does not handle freight.
If Marta is not a subway, then what is it? Light rail does NOT go underground.
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The Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority or MARTA (pronounced /ˈmɑrtə/) is the principal rapid-transit system in the Atlanta metropolitan area and the ninth-largest in the United States. Formed in 1971, MARTA operates a network of bus routes linked to a heavy rail rapid transit system consisting of 48 miles (77 km) of track with 38 train stations
Direct Link to above quote Here:
Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Light Rail: Unknown City. This is a perfect example of light rail. Overhead power supply and... slow.
Heavy Rail: Peachtree Center Marta Station
04-23-2008, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
J2rescue
You bring up a good point.
I don't think that is true at all. Running the North Line up to Roswell or Alpharetta would be a good start. Especially since that area of Fulton county is underserved by MARTA. I also think spurs to Stone Mountain, Emory and Turner Field would be excellent. I don't know how feasible that is but if MARTA rail was to expand within its current service area those would be useful. I can't see MARTA style trains running up to Marietta but close in areas (Mableton, Norcross, Tucker, etc) could handle it. Of course that would mean suburban counties vote to fund MARTA so this will never happen.
04-23-2008, 04:49 PM
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I don't see it as happening. Not as long as the Republicans are running things here. They hate anything that could be called "public transportation".
04-23-2008, 04:52 PM
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by
willrusso
For Marta to be such a "useless" system that doesn't go anywhere, it sure attracts a lot of riders. 451,064 people a day to be exact.
If Marta is not a subway, then what is it? Light rail does NOT go underground.
Direct Link to above quote Here:
Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Light Rail: Unknown City. This is a perfect example of light rail. Overhead power supply and... slow.
Heavy Rail: Peachtree Center Marta Station
Light rail is not necessarily "slow". Many of those trains are capable of speeds of 50 or more MPH.
04-23-2008, 07:23 PM
Location: Southeast
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Quote:
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willrusso
If Marta is not a subway, then what is it? Light rail does NOT go underground.
Subway is a completely (majority?) underground system, hence the prefix sub-. Light rail can go underground, it is not limited to the surface. Light rail can also have third rail power instead of overhead.
MARTA might have subway style cars, but that doesn't mean it is one. The system as a whole is not a subway.
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willrusso
Light Rail: Unknown City. This is a perfect example of light rail. Overhead power supply and... slow.
Light rail doesn't have to be slow, if it was, then what would the purpose of it be? (can't compete if its slower than a car). I believe you are thinking about a 'tram'. I think our difference is I use 'Light Rail' as a more general term (non-freight rail), while you seem to use it as a more specific definition.
04-23-2008, 07:27 PM
Location: East Cobb
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Frankie117
I think our difference is I use 'Light Rail' as a more general term (non-freight rail), while you seem to use it as a more specific definition.
According to Wikipedia, Light Rail does have a more specific definition.
Light rail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It probably makes sense to use the more specific meaning, since it appears well-established.
04-23-2008, 08:20 PM
Location: Marietta, GA
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I don't see it as happening. Not as long as the Republicans are running things here. They hate anything that could be called "public transportation".
Not sure that's correct. I for one would vote for it, but I'd like to see light rail or electric trolley buses go from Marietta to places like Roswell and Alpharetta, not always to or through downtown.
04-23-2008, 08:30 PM
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I am not a train expert, but I do not think light rail and commuter rail can share the same tracks. The map you point to has two clearly distinct paths that might share a station, but not the same tracks. The proposal given in this thread would be for commuter rail only, and so my point was that the smaller, local stops would not work. I do agree that light rail would be needed instead.
Yep you're right, they can't share the same rail...but they can share the same right-of-way (with the necessary precautions of course).
04-23-2008, 08:40 PM
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MARTA is heavy rail. Period.
Light rail can be on surface streets, but can also function in its own right-of-way. Kind of like a heavy rail, but slower.
MARTA could go out to the suburbs. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) is a heavy rail system that is very similar to MARTA (they were considered sister systems...a lot has changed though) and it goes well into the Bay Area suburbs...farther than one might think (with more plans for expansion). BART is known for being a somewhat unique heavy rail system, because it functions as an urban, heavy rail subway system, but also somewhat like commuter rail as it goes further out (MARTA's future perhaps? ...Or wishful thinking?)
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Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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