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Did you not read the link I provided? Are you totally ignorant of the subtext to their message?
I have read it, and it specifically refers to Australian politicans. I have not read anything from Sea Shepherd saying that Australians are barbarians or that Australian culture is barbaric as whole.
Yes, to regulate whaling worldwide and set the quotas, its called the International Whaling Commission for a reason. In later years it has been hijacked by hypocritical governments who votes on emotions acting on behalf of emotional wrecks living in their countries, rather than REAL sustainbility and environment.
There is however some loopholes in it, you can be a member of the IWC and hunt whales with your own quotas if you do it under officially science, another loophole is to simply object to it, like some other members has done. Loopholes are legal, otherwise they would not be loopholes but simply violations. Also, the IWC is not the UN, they are not a law-making entity.
Another interesting fact is that not all whales and cetaceans are regulated by the IWC, for example, beaked whales, orcas, pilot whales and dolphins (all species) are not regulated in any kind of way by the IWC and I am pretty sure that most Australians are against the hunting of those animals as well regardless of how many there are of them, even if they are NOT recognised by the IWC.
This of course is people living in the same country that kills more than 4 million kangaroos every year. Too bad for the kangaroos that they dont live in water like cetaceans do, since being a mammal and living in water appearently makes a certain animal more special, regardless of whether its whales, dolphins, seals, sea lions, sea otters or whatever.
Appearently for most people in Australia, killing just 1 non-endangered dolphin and eating it for dinner is way worse, more barbaric and more upsetting than killing 10,000 or even 100,000 kangaroos
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I have not compared them to tuna or other fish, I only said that Sea Shepherd appearently views all ocean life as equally for the environment, and that they therefore should call Australia a "barbaric and uncivilized nation" and an "uncivilized people" an "uncivilized culture" if they call Japan that.
You may see it as moral outrage, but that does not make any excuse to the vile racist content in many of those commentaries, texts and poems.
Whales are not comparable to fish since they are not fish, but they are comparable to other highly intelligent mammals like pigs.
You can find racist and vile comments on every nationality on Youtube and other sites. You can get a very distorted view about the human race on the internet. There are people that will say the most disgusting things that they would never say to someone's face.
You wouldn't want to form your opinion on any nationality from anonymous comments people make. I hope Japan does stop killing whales. It is a practice that belongs in the past. Personally I don't like any animals being killed but I know I'm in the minority.
You can find racist and vile comments on every nationality on Youtube and other sites. You can get a very distorted view about the human race on the internet. There are people that will say the most disgusting things that they would never say to someone's face.
You wouldn't want to form your opinion on any nationality from anonymous comments people make. I hope Japan does stop killing whales. It is a practice that belongs in the past. Personally I don't like any animals being killed but I know I'm in the minority.
The internet is a place to vent. Because its an anonymous place where your words of 'opinion' will not direct any real consequences. But anyways I train in the art of boxing with a Japanese coach and he lived in Australia for 2 years and loved it!
But they also claim to be equally against the killing of sharks and tuna. So when are they going to start calling Australians for "uncivilized barbarians"? Why not, if they are (as they claim) equally against the killing of sharks and tuna? Or is it just cause they would loose their supporters if they started calling Australia for "barbaric and uncivilized" in the same way that this disgusting organisation treats Japan and its people in their hate filled commentaries, poems and texts? This is all because they are biased, they love Australia and hates Japan, and also encourages others to do so. Even though they are equally against those Australian activities, they do not describe Australia and its people in the same way.
And how is Japan during WWII in any kind of way related to the modern Japan? Its not even the same country, Imperial Japan does no longer exist. Dont you realise that they say these things ONLY to emotionally enfuriate people (in particular Americans and Australians) with racial hatred against Japan and the Japanese? Why else would that mention HISTORICAL things that are completely unrelated to the whaling they claim to be against?
In Germany it is actually a crime to go around calling people nazis, or making comparisons between modern Germany and nazis. Infact even a court in Germany ruled that the organisation PETA are not allowed to compare the holocaust with the killing of animals, since thats a hate crime, and the EU approved of that court ruling as being a fully justified sentence against a vile hate crime.
Is it a conincidence or not that this vile hate group has their major support base in Australia, of all countries in the world?
Well many countries fish sharks and tuna, so it'd be hard to target Australia over it. But yes, I notice how with Australia they blame the government, whereas whaling is somehow a reflection of Japanese culture being barbaric.
Interesting about that...there was a lot of outcry against PETA for that campaign. While I do sort of support Sea Shepherd, I know there are those among them that think we shouldn't be eating animals at all.
I think the latter is merely because Sea Shepherd is based here, if I'm not mistaken?
I think there is a lot of anger against Japan in Australia due to the whaling. Japan is not doing whaling because they are eating them. Japan is apparently doing scientific studies so they kill the whole whale. The scientific studies can be done without killing the whale. Whales are endangered and one of the most magificient animals. The are the largest mammal. I saw a program on Sixty Minutes about the blue whale and how the are trying to conserve it. I'm glad Australians are very much protective of these magnificient animals and doing what they can to protect them from extinction.
Most Australians are not racist against Japan and Japanese people visiting Australia wouldn't have any problems.
As one of the scientists said at the end of the program:
"We are the so called custodians of this planet. They are the largest animals that we have. They live in a different world to ours but they share the planet. If we cannot possibly save such large. beautiful beings what hope is there."
That's the official line, but I don't think anyone buys it for a moment. Whale meat is very expensive and profitable in Japan. In fact most Japanese people have never eaten whale meat, and many are against it. The one thing I agree with the OP is I don't like people generalising a whole country on what some of them do.
It doesn't matter what the backwards Australia thinks or claims
The USA will always be on Japan's side
I used to live in Sydney, Australia and I've never stumbled upon such nasty, ignorant and selfish people as Australians. They're all hypocrites and extremly naive. Also Australa is a useless country filled with migrants who don't even know how to speak English LMAO
I have read it, and it specifically refers to Australian politicans. I have not read anything from Sea Shepherd saying that Australians are barbarians or that Australian culture is barbaric as whole.
No...also the line saying that they haven't met any Australian who has eaten kangaroo. Well they must not know many people, because I personally have and know many who have at least tried it. It's not that commonly available in supermarkets, but Coles or something usually has some kangaroo. I don't like the culture of hunting kangaroos, but I think sustained culling is justifiable: kangaroos are a good, environmentally sustainable food source, but Sea Shepherd are probably against any killing...I don't see it as any worse as killing sheep or cows. Kangaroos are the opposite of endangered.
If whales were abundant I wouldn't have a problem with limited whaling, if they could minimise cruelty, but given the history of whaling, I would still rather not. Then again, a whale could probably feed a lot of people. I'm more of a conservationist...while it is sort of sad we have to even kill any animal, I'm more concerned about survival of species and sustainability. In some ways whaling might prove more environmentally sustainable than raising chickens or something. I fear tuna stocks might also be under threat.
It doesn't matter what the backwards Australia thinks or claims
The USA will always be on Japan's side
I used to live in Sydney, Australia and I've never stumbled upon such nasty, ignorant and selfish people as Australians. They're all hypocrites and extremly naive. Also Australa is a useless country filled with migrants who don't even know how to speak English LMAO
I'm sure most Americans are similarly against whaling. It's probably un-PC to be pro-whaling. And what do you base your brazen claim on? Have you met all Australians? How are Americans nicer, more enlightened, better, more generous, less hypocritical? I think the fact you can generalise 22 million people like that might be a reflection on yourself...
I have, on the internet, noticed many instances of Australians saying hateful things about the Japanese people and Japan. Usually it's about whaling, appearently, many Australians thinks these animals (including species that are NOT endangered) are far more worth than any other animal. Many Australians express this anger (which is 100% cultural) through racism, like using the word "J*p" (the J-word) and making references to WWII that has nothing to do with the debate, and of course, saying that "Japan deserved to be nuked". Why is this culture of racist hatred so popular in Australia? Just cause they have a fetish for a big ocean mammal? Australia kills literally MILLIONS of kangaroos every year, but kill just 1 whale and Australians will think you are a monster, even though its just yet another animal like any other.
It is common with racism towards Asians in literally all western countries for animal topics, some westerners cannot accept that some Asians may not draw a line at which animals you can eat. But this disgusting racist behaviour seems to be even more common, and more tolerated in Australia.
I am not Japanese or Asian by the way.
In general Australians are very much racist. They will not show you that but deep down they are when it comes to work or friendships or even as a neighbours. I live here and believe me I know that very well.
I am not talking about upper class of people , intelligent people because those people know that besides Australia there are many other countries on our Earth.
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