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Help me find some data to support your conclusion that Cadillac is a poorly engineered/built car. The three links I provide here compare a 2010 CTS to a 2010 5 series to a 2010 E series and they conclude that the Cadillac is the better value in regards to cost of ownership. This does not jibe with your blanket statement about Cadillac being lesser to the Germans. Why is that?
BMW and Mercedes both developed a bad name as a used car a while back becuase they had an extradorinarily expensive maintainence reqruiement at some high mileage number. I donot remember how many miles it was, but it cost about $5,000. When owners reached that maintenance, they would generally sell the car. The new owner would discover that they had to spend a fortune to to the necessary maintanence and get the service engine or equivalent light turned off (lots of people woudl just ignore it, or just turn off ht elight themselves, but many people got stuck for the cost and this resulted in a bad reputation in the used car market). I am not sure whether they corrected this problem, but the reputation remains.
BMW and Mercedes both developed a bad name as a used car a while back becuase they had an extradorinarily expensive maintainence reqruiement at some high mileage number. I donot remember how many miles it was, but it cost about $5,000. When owners reached that maintenance, they would generally sell the car. The new owner would discover that they had to spend a fortune to to the necessary maintanence and get the service engine or equivalent light turned off (lots of people woudl just ignore it, or just turn off ht elight themselves, but many people got stuck for the cost and this resulted in a bad reputation in the used car market). I am not sure whether they corrected this problem, but the reputation remains.
the maintenance requirement is closer to $2000. Covers everything. Now of course, there is no law that says you have to do it...especially at a BMW dealer. Take it to a non BMW dealer and you can kiss 75% of that cost goodbye.
and like most people will say too, the CTS shouldn't be classfied along with a 5. Then is the DTS supposed to compete with the 7 cause that would be really unfair to the caddy then.
From what I know, the only reason why a lot of magazines pitched the CTS against the 5 was to show how the CTS-V could measure up to the monstrous M5. And to be quie frank, the CTS falls somewhere in the middle in terms of size between the 3 and 5.
just like the Hyundais, its going to take more than 1 model to convince me that Caddy's are of superior quality.
and like most people will say too, the CTS shouldn't be classfied along with a 5. Then is the DTS supposed to compete with the 7 cause that would be really unfair to the caddy then.
From what I know, the only reason why a lot of magazines pitched the CTS against the 5 was to show how the CTS-V could measure up to the monstrous M5. And to be quie frank, the CTS falls somewhere in the middle in terms of size between the 3 and 5.
just like the Hyundais, its going to take more than 1 model to convince me that Caddy's are of superior quality.
When the current generation Caddy CTS was introduced, it was meant to be a competitive bargain for those who had 3 Series money but wanted a 5 Series-sized car. In my opinion, Cadillac made a big mistake by putting the VERY underpowered 3.0L engine as the base, they should've just kept the base engine as the 3.6L DI instead of charging a substantial premium for a bigger (adequate) engine.
The DTS was never meant to compete with anything Germany had- it was a luxo-barge that sold well with the retirees in America. My parents had a 2006 DTS and while it was a nice car, it wasn't competition for anything other than comparable American cars. It was, however, very comfortable.
And have you looked at the upcoming XTS? That'll be a 5 Series/E-Class fighter and the Caddy SRX is quite a nice vehicle for the money.
its going to take more than 1 model to convince me that Caddy's are of superior quality.
Well there's your problem right there. I wasn't trying to convince you of anything. Another poster makes a blanket statement about Cadillacs being inferior with no facts to back it up, I challenge him and showed factual evidence where a third party company says that is false for this one model, compared to whatever size German sedan it can be compared to. Therefore his statement is false.
With all due respect, I don't care what you think. Opinions from close minded people are irrelevant.
Well there's your problem right there. I wasn't trying to convince you of anything. Another poster makes a blanket statement about Cadillacs being inferior with no facts to back it up, I challenge him and showed factual evidence where a third party company says that is false for this one model, compared to whatever size German sedan it can be compared to. Therefore his statement is false.
With all due respect, I don't care what you think. Opinions from close minded people are irrelevant.
Well there's your problem right there. I wasn't trying to convince you of anything. Another poster makes a blanket statement about Cadillacs being inferior with no facts to back it up, I challenge him and showed factual evidence where a third party company says that is false for this one model, compared to whatever size German sedan it can be compared to. Therefore his statement is false.
With all due respect, I don't care what you think. Opinions from close minded people are irrelevant.
The headgasket problem with the Northstar engines is well known and well documented. It is my understanding it remains unresolved. Not only that, but late 90s Northstars were losing oil through the engine, despite having good seals, because of a poor casting process. Then, you have the whole front-wheel drive issue. Do your own research, dude, and none of that media hype rubbish.
I was actually thinking about buying an early 2000s STS or Eldorado since you can pick them up for next to nothing even with very low mileage. But after diving into a bit of research, I decided it's not worth it. Those cars are cheap for a reason. Not to mention they come with a ghetto/white trash/old person stigma.
I admit I don't know much about the CTS, but at least it's RWD. I may take a look at them. But as others said, they're really not at the level of the E-class, 5-series or A6,, although they are a bit bigger than C-class, 3-series and A4. I've heard the CTS-V is quite a car and is an American alternative to the M3 or C-class AMG, but if they are like the other models it's only superficial and they don't hold up over any amount of time.
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