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Old 12-26-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: United State of Texas
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Sounds like you've just had very good luck with cars. If all of your vehicles have been reliable, how do you conclude that Honda is an uber-reliable brand? The stats certainly don't back that up.

what exactly is unsubstantiated in my claims? I currently own a Honda. No envy here.
I am in the car business. Have been for 30 plus years. Our group does a LOT of miles annually. All of our vehicles have certainly not all been reliable. One Toyota Camry went through brakes, CV axle, and a head gasket failure in 51,000 miles. Two Fords (Explorer - 2 transmissions plus a bunch of other items and a Taurus company car - 1 transmission, brake master cylinder, alternator) both ate a transmission under 60K. Expensive and unacceptable fixes. A Nissan Titan that burned up a rear axle at 20K... We have had a lot of vehicles.

None have been more reliable than the Hondas. I'd love to hear what you think IS more reliable these days than the Hondas. I have not sen or heard and claims from dealers I buy for or the public of any Honda "fall from grace".

Enlighten me... but don't mistake my post as me thinking that Honda can do no wrong. They are not immune to having problems. Frankly no carmaker is.

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Old 12-26-2011, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Birmingham
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My experience with Honda varies. If you buy a 4cyl model with a manual trans, you'll most likely get a bullet proof machine. If you buy one of their V6s with an automatic or an Odyssey, you have a very good chance of having issues that are very un-Honda like. They goodwilled the transmission warranties on plenty of the minivans because it just did not hold up and the 6th gen V6 model Accords were also problematic (as well as the RL and TL).

Everybody's awesome Honda story always seems to involve some 95hp manual Civic they had twenty years ago. You are not likely to hear the same praise heaped on one of their later model V6s. They just did not put a strong enough transmission behind them to handle the torque.
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Old 12-26-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: United State of Texas
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My experience with Honda varies. If you buy a 4cyl model with a manual trans, you'll most likely get a bullet proof machine. If you buy one of their V6s with an automatic or an Odyssey, you have a very good chance of having issues that are very un-Honda like. They goodwilled the transmission warranties on plenty of the minivans because it just did not hold up and the 6th gen V6 model Accords were also problematic (as well as the RL and TL).

Everybody's awesome Honda story always seems to involve some 95hp manual Civic they had twenty years ago. You are not likely to hear the same praise heaped on one of their later model V6s. They just did not put a strong enough transmission behind them to handle the torque.
I can certainly go along with the fact that each make has weaknesses. It's true no matter what brand you talk about.

Honda is not perfect by any means. Nobody is.
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Old 12-26-2011, 03:01 PM
 
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I don't think he's saying they were. We had Hondas in our family fleet and yes they do have flaws. Mostly regarding the power windows and automatic transmissions. But yes the 4-cyl Hondas w/ manuals were phenomenally great cars.
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Old 12-26-2011, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Honda is not perfect by any means. Nobody is.
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I don't think he's saying they were.
Exactly. I'm just saying they've had their own fair share of knocks, some what I would consider unnacceptable - but their brand perception amongst the general public is that they are still leaps and bounds above every domestic brand, and most likely at the very top of the Japanese brands.
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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That about sums it up; Ford has been gaining on the imports for several years, but one of, if not Honda's most pressing issue right now is rushing a new Civic to market because the just-released one has been demolished by the automobile media.
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Old 12-26-2011, 11:36 PM
 
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I think the dimmest thing is looking at the sales of full-size trucks again. It will be pretty funny to watch gas prices to go up again and the same people will be back at the pump complaining.

I still remember selling my 4WD Toyota truck to some dip during the gas price surge a few years ago for thousands over book value. To think a few thousand dollars was worth an extra 4 MPG is crazy LOL.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I have a Focus rental and I am fairly impressed overall with the interior and fit and finish. It is the four door hatchback model. The LED interior illumination is certainly a nice touch in the compact segment.
I got the 4-door hatchback. I thought the LED lighting was silly, but now that I have it, I really like it.
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:27 PM
 
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I have a 2000 Hyundai Accent that has not given me any problems untill recently. It needs a Catalytic Converter. Other than that nothing in its 131,000 miles. My sister has a Hyundai Santa Fe and has not had any problems with that SUV. She just bought a 2012 Honda Civic with about every gadget that the Civic comes with and I was very Impressed. She kept the Santa Fe because she still likes it.

The little thing that I like about the Civic was the picture screen near the guages. You download whatever pictures that you want and it keeps them in there. It also has the GPS Map screen that my kids were impressed with. My son had to go to a school Christmas party at one of his friends homes and instead of looking up directions on our computer I had her take him to the car so he could find out where the kid lived. My son liked that. Probably wondering if we will ever get something like that in our cars. LOL

I haven't looked at new cars in a while but am impressed with what I am seeing from Honda, Hyundai, and Ford. Maybe I will venture out to see what others are building to see what I may want in the way of a future car.
You can buy a GPS at Wal-Mart for $150 or less than $100 if on sale.
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