Right turn on red safely (driver, California, highway, 1982)
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This is presuming both people have a green light, though. The OP's situation is one where the folks turning left have a green light, but those turning right still have a red light. Again, in all cases, those with a green light have right of way over those with a red light.
I realize it is a different situation. I guess it was too far off topic for the thread. Sorry.
No misunderstanding on my part at all.
It does not matter if it is round or a arrow all that matters is that it is green or red.
The person with the red light should not be in the way of traffic with a green light of any kind.
IF you have a RED light you have to STOP.
You are only allowed to make a right on red if it is clear to do so.
If a car that has a green light of any kind and is making a left turn has to yield to you to avoid you, as you are making a right on red, you are in the way and at fault, you do not have the right of way.
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010
Perhaps you misunderstood. I am referring to the situation where there is a circular green light, not an arrow, in both directions. Georgia says left turns must yield to oncoming traffic. It does not specify any exceptions.
No misunderstanding on my part at all.
It does not matter if it is round or a arrow all that matters is that it is green or red.
The person with the red light should not be in the way of traffic with a green light of any kind.
IF you have a RED light you have to STOP.
You are only allowed to make a right on red if it is clear to do so.
If a car that has a green light of any kind and is making a left turn has to yield to you to avoid you, as you are making a right on red, you are in the way and at fault, you do not have the right of way.
I am talking about making a right turn on GREEN and having someone turn left on GREEN in front of me. Georgia makes no distinction as to whether the turn is into one lane or two.
I feel the blue car has the right of way into either of the two lanes. Some times you need to make a left turn as soon as you complete the right turn. If someone turns left into the left turn lane, you would have to come to a complete stop, then change lanes. If the person in the red car waits until the person in the blue car commits to a lane, both drivers get where they want to be more efficiently.
It is different from the original post, but I did not feel it justified its own thread. Sorry.
Last edited by suzy_q2010; 03-17-2013 at 01:38 PM..
You keep moving the goal post.
If they both have a green the other 2 have a red.
Sure but what does that have to do with the price of rice?
The cars do have to yield for "oncoming traffic making a left a green light.
The car making the right on red is not oncoming traffic.
The car with the red light does not have the right of way and should not be entering until it is clear.
Again no conflict if is is a 2 lane street as the car making the left will go into the left lane and the car making the right will go into the right hand lane.
one lane rd.
If not the car with the green making a right has the right of way over a car turning left on green. In this instance the car making the left has to yield to the car making the right on green.
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010
Perhaps you misunderstood. I am referring to the situation where there is a circular green light, not an arrow, in both directions. Georgia says left turns must yield to oncoming traffic. It does not specify any exceptions.
Right turn on red means come to a complete stop, them proceed "when it is safe to do so". If anything happens, it was obviously not safe to do so, and you are in violation.
You keep moving the goal post.
If they both have a green the other 2 have a red.
Sure but what does that have to do with the price of rice?
The cars do have to yield for "oncoming traffic making a left a green light.
The car making the right on red is not oncoming traffic.
The car with the red light does not have the right of way and should not be entering until it is clear.
Again no conflict if is is a 2 lane street as the car making the left will go into the left lane and the car making the right will go into the right hand lane.
one lane rd.
If not the car with the green making a right has the right of way over a car turning left on green. In this instance the car making the left has to yield to the car making the right on green.
How many times do I have to apologize for interjecting a different right turn scenario into the thread?
Yes, the car making a right turn is "oncoming traffic." What if the driver has his right turn signal on but does not turn at the intersection, perhaps planning to turn just past the intersection? Georgia law gives the right turning vehicle right of way on green and does not specify a difference between turning into one lane or more than one.
Right turn on red means come to a complete stop, them proceed "when it is safe to do so". If anything happens, it was obviously not safe to do so, and you are in violation.
Pretty simple. A red light is equivalent to a stop sign. You wait until it is clear to proceed. A red light is not a yield sign where you can just drive on by without stopping.
I am talking about making a right turn on GREEN and having someone turn left on GREEN in front of me. Georgia makes no distinction as to whether the turn is into one lane or two.
I feel the blue car has the right of way into either of the two lanes. Some times you need to make a left turn as soon as you complete the right turn. If someone turns left into the left turn lane, you would have to come to a complete stop, then change lanes. If the person in the red car waits until the person in the blue car commits to a lane, both drivers get where they want to be more efficiently.
It is different from the original post, but I did not feel it justified its own thread. Sorry.
I understand what you are saying, and you are correct, this does not warrant another thread.
That said, even under Georgia law, the person making the right turn onto the street must turn into the right lane. You do NOT have the option of turning right into either of the two lanes.
The person making the left turn must turn into the left lane of a two-lane street. They should not wander into the right-hand lane.
When turning either direction, you take the first available lane. This means people turning right do so into the right lane, and people turning left take the left lane. Make lane changes afterward if needed.
With that in mind, it is still unwise to make your turn at the same time as someone else. If I'm turning left and someone else is turning right into the same direction, I'll wait just a moment, thanks. Because I don't really know if they are going to do what they are supposed to do.
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