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My point is the '68 Charger looks like a powerful, high-performance car and the Honda does not. No matter how much power (and money) the Honda is modified to make, it's still a Honda!
And taking an engine to 8200 rpms is more stressful than taking it to 5800 rpm (the typical redline of a 383-4 bbl Charger engine).
That is a matter of opinion, I think Hondas can look like performance oriented cars if modified in the right way. Also your preference of powerband is just that a preference. Favoring low end torque on the street is understandable as it is a more usable powerband but I think you underestimate the fun of taking a car past 8000 rpm.
Also Honda is king for volumetric efficiency. Many Honda engines make more than 100hp/Liter from the factory. How many Muscle cars can you say that about?
Its ok to have fun with your cars. If ricin one up is fun and doesn't affect the driving safety of it who cares. One thing I find odd especially with the donk cars is the bumper height. We have/had laws that require for safety reasons that the height of the front and rear bumpers can not vary from the factory specifications by more than several inches. Why are the donk cars legal to drive?. In the past I have seen cars fail their inspection when they were jacked up too high. Are the cops just not doing their jobs. Even in South Carolina where people on bikes are arrested for having "ape hanger" handle bars these donk cars get by with no problems. Whats sup with that?
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It's still more stressful than running the same engine at less than 5,000 or 6,000 rpm.
RPMs aren't the only determining factors for stress, piston weight/speed and total reciprocating mass have a lot to say about what loads the engine sees.
That is a matter of opinion, I think Hondas can look like performance oriented cars if modified in the right way. Also your preference of powerband is just that a preference. Favoring low end torque on the street is understandable as it is a more usable powerband but I think you underestimate the fun of taking a car past 8000 rpm.
Yes, it is a matter of opinion. The cars I like don't need to rev to 8000 rpm to make their power. But let's not try to fool ourselves... a Honda will always look like a Honda. And will never look like a '60s/early-'70s American muscle like these:
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Also Honda is king for volumetric efficiency. Many Honda engines make more than 100hp/Liter from the factory. How many Muscle cars can you say that about?
Oh, yeah, the old "hp/liter." Well, I don't use the term "liter." Cubic inches all the way for me, baby!
How many Hondas can lay rubber for 100+ feet (without powerbraking)?
RPMs aren't the only determining factors for stress, piston weight/speed and total reciprocating mass have a lot to say about what loads the engine sees.
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That's true, but rpm's still are a main factor.
Not really. Light piston, light pin, light rod, short stroke may well result in less load at 8-9,000 RPM than heavy piston, heavy pin, heavy rod, long stroke at 5,000 RPM.
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My point is the '68 Charger looks like a powerful, high-performance car and the Honda does not. No matter how much power (and money) the Honda is modified to make, it's still a Honda!
How many Hondas can lay rubber for 100+ feet (without powerbraking)?
How many muscle cars can get 30+ mpg will still running mid to low 14 seconds 1/4 mile?
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