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Originally Posted by orrecc
Ok agreed(?), not so much a rant but both posts were about "viper" products. In the "rant" (you may be right there guys) I had clearly stated that it has been over 10 years since my last remote-anything install. Viper then was a sub-par brand, if they have increased their quality, corrected the mistakes (power supply and over activation of accessory systems) + built a +/- reputation since then great!
Still, am I wrong on trying to steer people away from the remaining majority of aftermarket brands named after animals of action, that try to invoke a supposed response? Nothing says quality like triggering the lock/unlock solenoids 5 times in a row...
Still stand by the best box installed by fools is worth nothing. In Central Ohio people paid $300k for new homes made of foam and stucco with terrible roofs, and walked on floors made of MDF joists. Soon as it got wet the houses fell apart (really, see Triangle development owned by Don Kenney), the older homes 2 blocks down built correctly have been standing for 60+ years. Comparing apples to oranges yes, but the principal is the same.
And VM... Why? I am just as much against junk work as you are, but the consumer misconception that good equipment/training overrules inexperienced/shoddy techs runs rampant around the auto universe. That's all, have a feeling we agree on too much to be at odds with each other.
-Orrecc  |
In your housing example, the builder (installer) used substandard materials (alarm/starter units) so it's not really a fair comparison, in principle. They may have done an excellent build, but the poor quality materials caused the problems. Just like a great installer using crappy alarms is inviting problems.
I find it hard to believe that MDF joists meet building codes. That just doesn't seem possible.
That aside, either can be problematic.
The last Viper I dealt with is on my F150, and it was installed about 7 years ago. It has always worked perfectly. I had the car guys do the work, but I went over the parts and the install. Looks pretty much like what I used to install.
What do you think is better, and why?
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