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Old 04-25-2015, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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I wish we had a facepalm face.
I think it is a fair assessment that the OP hasn't the first clue about investment appreciation and the value of real estate. I certainly hope for his sake that someone with a far better understanding of economics than he seems to possess is looking after his RRSP/401(k).
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Old 04-26-2015, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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the automakers generally have one car coming off their assembly lines every 60 seconds. each car takes about eight hours to build on the assembly line start to finish, assuming you are following one car.
Are you saying from nothing to a complete car rolling out takes 60 seconds? This means somebody built the entire engine in 60 seconds. How is that possible?
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Old 04-26-2015, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Are you saying from nothing to a complete car rolling out takes 60 seconds? This means somebody built the entire engine in 60 seconds. How is that possible?
It's not possible. If you read the post you quoted, it takes 8 hours to assemble a car. However, there are enough cars on the line that one rolls out the door once per minute.

And engines have their own plants. They come shipped to the vehicle assembly plant in racks of 3 or so, depending on the engine size, via truck or rail car.
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Old 04-26-2015, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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It's not possible. If you read the post you quoted, it takes 8 hours to assemble a car. However, there are enough cars on the line that one rolls out the door once per minute.

And engines have their own plants. They come shipped to the vehicle assembly plant in racks of 3 or so, depending on the engine size, via truck or rail car.
Yeah, but the post tries to mislead by saying they can build a car in 60 seconds. I like to add all the hours that goes into making every component that goes in to a car. It would be hundreds and hundreds of hours per vehicle.
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Old 04-26-2015, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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May be I should have said houses shouldn’t cost as much as they do. Just compare what goes into each.
Since this thread proves that there's no use trying to explain it to you, here's a suggestion: go figure it out first-hand. If you think houses should be so much cheaper, start yourself a real estate investment and/or development business and undercut the hell out of your competitors. I mean, it should be easy, right? After all, houses shouldn't cost as much as they do.
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Old 04-26-2015, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Yeah, but the post tries to mislead by saying they can build a car in 60 seconds. I like to add all the hours that goes into making every component that goes in to a car. It would be hundreds and hundreds of hours per vehicle.
No it doesn't. It says they can build a car in 8 hours.


BUT, if you want to look at it this way........we'll have to look at everything it takes to build a house. Now we're getting into the chopping down of forests, the vast array of specialized machinery in the woods, the men who do it, the mills that turn them into boards, the trucks and trains that move the wood around, the companies who make the wiring for the house, the plumbing, the nails, the screws, the hammers, the drills, the fuse box, the mold that punched out the shape of the fuse box, the trim, the faucets, the plugs, the mines who extract those raw materials, the railroads that move it, etc, etc, etc......

You get my point.

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Old 04-26-2015, 01:19 AM
 
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Are you saying from nothing to a complete car rolling out takes 60 seconds? This means somebody built the entire engine in 60 seconds. How is that possible?
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Yeah, but the post tries to mislead by saying they can build a car in 60 seconds. I like to add all the hours that goes into making every component that goes in to a car. It would be hundreds and hundreds of hours per vehicle.
how is it misleading to say that one car rolls off the assembly line every 60 seconds? anyone with even a partially functioning brain knows that even the automakers cant build one car in 60 seconds. nice try but a big failure on your part.

and yes, if you start with the premise that you are going to build a car from scratch, it would take a couple hundred hours to build one car. but remember the automakers are dealing with volume production here. for instance they have these huge things called machines, and these machines do various things that they are programmed to do. for instance, take one set of these machines, and slide a properly sized piece of sheet metal into one and, and in a couple of minutes, you have a fully formed door skin coming out the other end. and there are several sets of these machines that do this, same with fenders, hoods, roofs, etc.

and go to the engine factories, and you will find several lines set up for casting various engine parts, and more lines set up for machining engine parts. and still more lines set up for assembling those parts. some of these lines are fully automated, some are staffed with people, and some are combined.

the volume of production is vast compared to building houses. and the reason cars are less expensive than houses is because you can lay off the production costs per unit over a greater number of units, so your break even point becomes much lower, and thus you can sell the higher volume product for a much lower price.

to give you an idea, have you ever priced materials by volume? if so have you noticed that if you buy X number of widgets, they cost you a certain amount per unit, but if you buy x+50 widgets, the unit cost goes down? the reason for this is because you have gone past the price point where the seller breaks even on the unit sales, so they can offer you a lower price and still make money.
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Old 04-26-2015, 02:13 AM
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May be I should have said houses shouldn’t cost as much as they do. Just compare what goes into each.
Why waste money paying an excessive price for a house? It's just wood and nails, mostly, right? Then why not simply build your own, instead of paying good money for it? Then you can spend that money on a very nice car.
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Old 04-26-2015, 06:44 AM
 
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Are you saying from nothing to a complete car rolling out takes 60 seconds? This means somebody built the entire engine in 60 seconds. How is that possible?
This is how Chrysler builds its engines hope this answers your question.




Check out this video on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWsJk...e_gdata_player

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Old 04-26-2015, 06:59 AM
 
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This is the Chrysler plant I worked at put out 55 trucks an hour.

Check out this video on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3207...e_gdata_player
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