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Like someone else commented on here, what about the RELIABILITY of the Tesla model 3? If Tesla is going to be somewhat popular, it has to have decent reliability. I'm not saying it has to be like a 4Runner or some Lexus cars, but it's got to be decent.
Ever since a $40 000 car became "affordable by masses"? All this pitch about the "first full electric car truly affordable by masses".....
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I personally never heard of an ice car. 2016 Honda Civics and Toyota Camrys are in the 18k range. These are the type of buyers that make up the majority of the buyers of this Tesla 3 in my opinion. The people who buy econobox cars and are only concerned with fuel mileage.
Internal combustion engine....
And a 2016 Camry starts 23k for the most stripped down model you can get.
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I am only curious...
Ever since a $40 000 car became "affordable by masses"? All this pitch about the "first full electric car truly affordable by masses".....
84 month loans...
A quick Googling puts the average price at a bit over 34k. All those SUVs and giant pickup trucks are not cheap.
I wish they would make a coal burning steam powered car.
Won't work efficiently or practically because I'd have one. Steam engines themselves are not very efficient, setting that aside there is no way to turn your fuel source on or off. Perhaps you could turn the coal to powder, use some kind of injection system similar to fuel injection and then ignite it in the combustion chamber. That combustion chamber would still need to be for heating water. There is going to be a lot of ash and it would quickly ruin any mechanical parts like cylinders.
The efficiency would still be lacking because you would have brought a lot of water up to high temperature, driving down to the corner would take a lot of energy to heat up and when you get home it's lost. Steam engines have their purposes where you need constant power like electric generation, using it for a car isn't one of them.
At the cost of the car $35,000 plus tax, plus the need to install a charging station at home, the cost of electricity usage you aren't saving anything. You are paying more upfront for the car alone. In 10 years you will have "saved" from buying about $15,000 in fuel but you paid $15,000 more for the car upfront. Then in 10 years or actually less is when things on the Tesla will need costly repairs.
If you focus on running costs or anything left brained and rational wrt buying a Tesla you don't get it.
A Tesla is to a car as a Rolex is to a watch.
Both are more statements about the social status of the owner than they are to a useful function such as telling time or driving someplace.
i put a preorder in for a model 3 and estimate im around the 150k mark "in line". given some very optimistic estimates of production, i will probably not see my car until 2019, more realistically 2020 (this does take into account many preorder cancellations). volvo, audi, and mercedes all have some variants of autonomous driving (the biggest draw IMO to Tesla at the moment beside all electric power), in the next 4 years one can certainly presume the the draw of a model 3 TODAY will be much different then the draw in 4 years when more and more car makers add in more tech. even a honda civic now has full range adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist, auto braking, etc
i will hold on to my preorder for now but cant realistically see my self waiting until 2020 for a car that wont be special by then...
Trying to get my wife to get one. She just wants an appliance, but since I drive her car sometimes (mine is an SUV - too overkill for some tasks), I really want to drive something more special. Hell I'll even take an Audi A5. Thing is, it'd just be sitting at a commuter rail all day most days. Yikes.
I wish they would make a coal burning steam powered car.
How about car running on wood chunks? Those have been around long time and were very popular during WW2.
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Steam engines themselves are not very efficient, setting that aside there is no way to turn your fuel source on or off. Perhaps you could turn the coal to powder, use some kind of injection system similar to fuel injection and then ignite it in the combustion chamber. That combustion chamber would still need to be for heating water. There is going to be a lot of ash and it would quickly ruin any mechanical parts like cylinders.
