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Old 10-11-2010, 05:11 PM
 
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It happened to a friend's grandpa. It could happen to anyone! Not only that but in a wreck that cuts or kills power or they malfunction, do you want to be trapped inside if a fire were to start? I sure as hell wouldn't!
28 years of driving, 17 vehicles, 13 of which had(ve) power everything. Numerous high mile rentals and driving other vehicles. Over half a million miles driven. Never lost power on a train track or in a river, or had a fire. Sure it could happen, but it's not even close to a consideration when choosing between powered or manual anything.
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:18 PM
 
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I agree with you on the EQ but don't agree with the casual dismissal of paper maps. Like maps, GPS is a handy tool. A big difference between the two is you have to use your brain to read the map and then pay close attention to the road ahead while with GPS, it tells you what to do causing some drivers to turn off their brain and blindly trust the GPS unit. To so closely rely upon the GPS alone is to turn your brain off. One day I may use a GPS device when traveling long distance or to a city I've never been to before. In those cases I'll probably have a GPS app rather than buy a model just for that one trip alone. I did many travels before GPS was ever invented. Sometimes I got lost and some of those times it led me to a fantastic restaurant or a beautiful view of the mountains or lake. Not everyone is as clueless as the Griswalds (National Lampoon's Vacation).
I'm only dismissing maps for myself. GPS has served me well, and although not perfect I've found it to be very reliable, in my experience. Sightseeing comes later, after resetting the GPS. ;-)

My work requires me to go to places I've never been, often out away from civilization, and this is one place where GPS shines. It can tell me where I am if I get turned around. A map can't really do that, unless you've really been paying attention. I need to be looking at my surroundings when on the job, not looking at a map.

I'm a destination kind of person. While I enjoy seeing what's around me on a trip, business or pleasure, I mainly want to get where I'm going.
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:21 PM
 
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28 years of driving, 17 vehicles, 13 of which had(ve) power everything. Numerous high mile rentals and driving other vehicles. Over half a million miles driven. Never lost power on a train track or in a river, or had a fire. Sure it could happen, but it's not even close to a consideration when choosing between powered or manual anything.
I don't mind power locks. I even have them myself but automatic locking doors are something I would never have. If I want them locked I will do it myself. Most of them are able to be overridden per your manual instructions. Turn the key on and off three times in ten seconds, wait another 10 and do it one more time or whatever. Read your manual if you don't like them.
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I'm only dismissing maps for myself. GPS has served me well, and although not perfect I've found it to be very reliable, in my experience. Sightseeing comes later, after resetting the GPS. ;-)

My work requires me to go to places I've never been, often out away from civilization, and this is one place where GPS shines. It can tell me where I am if I get turned around. A map can't really do that, unless you've really been paying attention. I need to be looking at my surroundings when on the job, not looking at a map.

I'm a destination kind of person. While I enjoy seeing what's around me on a trip, business or pleasure, I mainly want to get where I'm going.
Agreed, for people who must drive or travel for work I'd rather a GPS unit than a big pile of maps. It's fine as long as the driver doesn't blindly obey the GPS unit. For families who travel on vacation only once a year, is it really worth the expense to purchase for that one trip a year?
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Old 10-11-2010, 07:21 PM
 
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Agreed, for people who must drive or travel for work I'd rather a GPS unit than a big pile of maps. It's fine as long as the driver doesn't blindly obey the GPS unit. For families who travel on vacation only once a year, is it really worth the expense to purchase for that one trip a year?
Probably not. BUT an option would be to use what I have. If I travel I carry a laptop, and I have Delorme Street Atlas as my GPS, on my laptop. Less expensive than a stand alone unit.
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Old 10-11-2010, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I never did like those DRL (daytime running lights). I'm not sure but I think with some cars, you could not even override them and turn them off.
In a couple cars I've had you could disable them by pulling the e-brake lever up one notch.

Strangely enough, that's also how you disable the AWD system on PDK-equipped AWD Porsches to make them RWD.
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Old 10-11-2010, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Vermont / NEK
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There are newer variants of both of these.

My family used to have a 59 Caddy with a button on the floor, much like the old dimmer switches, that would change radio stations. It may have helped to keep drivers focused on driving - or finding the button. Another option was air suspension which could be adjusted to lift and lower the rear of the car depending on the amount of weight placed on the rear axle. I thought it was pretty handy at the drive-in for allowing us kids in the rear seat to see the movie screen.
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Old 10-11-2010, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Detroit's Marina District
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When my wife was looking for a new car, she looked at a Volvo with a hearbeat sensor.

Basically, it could 'sense' if a carjacker was hiding on the floor of your car, and alert you via a flashing light on the key fob.

If the person was hiding on the seat, or laying on their back, or outside of the car, however, the sensor would basically be useless.

I guess someone at Volvo was watching too many 60's slasher movies...
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Old 10-11-2010, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Another option was air suspension which could be adjusted to lift and lower the rear of the car depending on the amount of weight placed on the rear axle. I thought it was pretty handy at the drive-in for allowing us kids in the rear seat to see the movie screen.
I had an Olds Cutelilass wagon with automatic load adjusters. It worked even when the key was turned off. I outfitted the wagon for camping, but it was hard to sleep in it because every time you roll over, the thing engages and tries to equalize your bed with a noisy little motor right under your ear. The only way I could disable it was by pulling the fuse that also cut off the radio.
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Old 10-11-2010, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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When my wife was looking for a new car, she looked at a Volvo with a hearbeat sensor.

Basically, it could 'sense' if a carjacker was hiding on the floor of your car, and alert you via a flashing light on the key fob.

If the person was hiding on the seat, or laying on their back, or outside of the car, however, the sensor would basically be useless.

I guess someone at Volvo was watching too many 60's slasher movies...
I've known some women who still fear this situation and so they now use the "panic" button on their key fob to activate the horns. The average criminal would jump if the horn went off at the car he's hiding behind or in. Then she could see him and walk away.
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