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Old 04-13-2018, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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"The “dynamic charging” — as opposed to the use of roadside charging posts — means the vehicle’s batteries can be smaller, along with their manufacturing costs."
It seems expensive and unnecessary. What is wrong with charging vehicles while they are parked? Even trucks or something that have to keep moving, still have to be parked while the driver takes his brake. That seems like the best time to charge them.
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Old 04-13-2018, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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That arm needing to make contact with the rail will kill it, that’s no better than old skool trolley technology. When I saw the headline I was imagining something like a wireless phone charger, but on a giant scale.
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Old 04-13-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Here's some things that I see that would make this difficult
-It will be massively expensive for some countries that aren't the size of Rhode Island
-Will these countries have a uniformed electric system and charging rail?
-How will it work in the ice and snow?
-Not every road is paved or in a major metropolitan area. Some cars never get on the road other then driving from farm to farm.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I see it as a pipe dream. Who is going to pay for it? Besides all of the infrastructure, who is going to pay for the electricity it takes to charge these vehicles that are using it? You can bet they'll raise taxes a LOT so everybody gets to pay regardless if you own electric cars or not. That should just about be enough to break the tax payers back. Some of you are already seeing taxes at more than half of your paycheck. Nope, it might happen in Europe but I don't see it here.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:26 AM
 
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Personally, I see ICE cars becoming more of a luxury item that only the rich or upper class will want.

Eventually, everyone will have electric cars because gas will be taxed higher and higher and the cost will prohibit most people from wanting an ICE car. When we get to the days of $10-$20 per gallon of gas, most people will say goodbye to their gas powered cars and only diehard auto enthusiasts or rich people will continue driving them.

I can see gas taxes and prices going way up. To reduce ICE cars further, I can see a "pollution" tax being added, that you have to pay every year at registration time, etc.

Not sure where my limit is. I'm not opposed to electric vehicles, so long as they provide performance that can best what I can have with an ICE vehicle. They're not quite there, but they are getting closer all the time.

Porsche (and to a lesser extent McLaren and Ferrari) already took the first step with their hybrid 918, when they decide to do an all electric hypercar, it probably won't be long before that tech trickles down to their mainstream cars.

(Can't wait to see what the purists say to that, they better keep the batteries in the rear, by god, or it won't be a true Porsche... LOL)
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan
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you keep the batteries in the front and the motors in the rear....get it straight....gosh
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Old 04-13-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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They can't keep up with the maintenance of regular asphalt roads let alone roads that recharge batteries.
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Old 04-13-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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The energy-density of a gallon of fuel, compared to that of a just about any type of battery, is so much higher.

You can make all the proclamations in the world, the reality is the above fact will have to be overcome, along will recharge-times of batteries, to knock-out the ICE.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Personally, I see ICE cars becoming more of a luxury item that only the rich or upper class will want.

Eventually, everyone will have electric cars because gas will be taxed higher and higher and the cost will prohibit most people from wanting an ICE car. When we get to the days of $10-$20 per gallon of gas, most people will say goodbye to their gas powered cars and only diehard auto enthusiasts or rich people will continue driving them.

I can see gas taxes and prices going way up. To reduce ICE cars further, I can see a "pollution" tax being added, that you have to pay every year at registration time, etc.

Not sure where my limit is. I'm not opposed to electric vehicles, so long as they provide performance that can best what I can have with an ICE vehicle. They're not quite there, but they are getting closer all the time.

Porsche (and to a lesser extent McLaren and Ferrari) already took the first step with their hybrid 918, when they decide to do an all electric hypercar, it probably won't be long before that tech trickles down to their mainstream cars.

(Can't wait to see what the purists say to that, they better keep the batteries in the rear, by god, or it won't be a true Porsche... LOL)
The infrastructure cost for EVs still way too high when the US haven't even fix the current crumbling infrastructure system. You can't have a democratic govt implement a technology chosen for public consumption without debate and that usually kills any new tech adoption.

In socialist countries, far few debates are necessary to push an agenda. In 50 years from now, the rest of 1st world countries even 2nd and 3rd world will have newer infrastructure than us because we have a see-saw govt. In 3 years from now, once Tesla and others lose their Fed rebates that will put EVs at luxury level that most people wouldn't pay full price for.

I think ICE car is here to stay for another 80 years because it's simply cheap and gas supply is too high and too many powerful companies behind big oil and ICE from going away.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:10 AM
 
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Electric cars sell in big city areas. They don't sell in our part of the country. Reasons.

1: When it gets cold here, they are impractical. They lose 60% of their range in cold weather. They lose range, going up a mountain etc. To go shopping it is a 100 mile trip one way, and a 180 mile trip the other direction. Example: According to the DMV, there is not one registered in Montana. Wyoming has one registered, owned by a Movie Star, that keeps it at his ranch to use as a go to town (local town) car, in the summer time only.

2: Electrified roads, are not being put where it is 100 miles between towns, and hundreds of miles to a city.
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