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Old 02-11-2023, 03:06 PM
 
Location: D.C.
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Shat cracks me up are the single family suburban houses. 4,000+ SF yet can’t fit two cars into their 2-car garage. Where I live, we have homes with 2-car and homes with 3-car garages. The homes with the 3-car whereby one is a double door and the other a single door, are in such high demand even in this market mess we’re in now, that they are commanding in excess of a 15% premium and don’t last more than a few days on the market. The double door spit houses the Yukon, and the single door spot houses the Camry or mid-size vehicle.
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Old 02-11-2023, 03:38 PM
 
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Small parking spaces aren't much of a problem if your car has a sunroof.
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Old 02-11-2023, 04:20 PM
 
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Small parking spaces aren't much of a problem if your car has a sunroof.
You're on to something. What if people exit through the front or rear of a car? That can be Tesla's next gimmick.
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Old 02-11-2023, 04:33 PM
 
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Urban planners are social engineers. They want to change society and change people's preferences. They think if they shrink the size of parking spaces, people will respond by buying smaller, more fuel efficient cars.

It doesn't work. It never works. People just buy what they want, and then ding up each other's full size SUVs cramming them into small parking spaces that urban planners force them into with their Utopian dreams of fuel efficient micro cars.

The same urban planners think that if they provide 500 parking spaces downtown where 5000 are needed, then people will take transit instead.

Nope, it never works. You just get downtowns overflowing with people cramming into available spaces and having to walk further from the available parking areas. Opportunists then see that demand is not being filled and they demolish old buildings, converting the lot into $20/hour surface lots, and people pay because they have no choice.
Q: What do you call 500 dead Urban Planners at the bottom of the ocean?



A: A good start.
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Old 02-11-2023, 04:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I didn't read the article but agree parking spaces are too small. I have an old Corolla and trying to park it is tough w/so many massive SUV's, etc. (and I'm a very small person and often have to squeeze out of the car) - I blame it on the people that are designing parking lots.
Don't worry. Soon they'll start buying more real estate to put in a bigger lot with more spaces between the cars, and you won't have the problem any more.

I'm sure you won't mind paying the higher prices at those stores or parking lots or offices etc., to pay off the extra amounts they had to spend to put in the larger parking spaces you wanted, right?

And of course you wouldn't think of going to the other store down the street that still has the smaller parking spaces and, now, lower prices than the store with the new, bigger parking lot. Naw, who would do a thing like that?

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Old 02-11-2023, 04:37 PM
 
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Carl Schneeman's test vehicle is 79" wide and 202" long. Here are some comparison vehicles from way back when:
1969 Buick Skylark 4-Door-Sedan: 75.6" wide and 204.7" long
1970 Chevrolet Impala: 79.8" wide and 216" long
1974 Chevrolet Impala 79.5" wide and 222.7" long


I drive a 2019 Buick Encore, a tiny vehicle: 69.9" wide and 168.4" long. Its height of 65.3" allows for better ground clearance and more interior and cargo room, though. However, don't try to fit four 6 ft people into the Encore, or two 6' people with two child seats in the back seat. Three adults will fit in the back seat, but only if they are female gymnasts.
2023 Full size SUVs:

Jeep Wagoneer: 215″ L x 84″ W
GMC Yukon XL: 225″ L x 81″ W
Lincoln Navigator: 210″ L x 80″ W

2023 Mid size SUVs:

Ford Explorer: 199″ L x 79″ W
Lincoln Aviator: 199″ L x 82″ W
Chevy Tahoe: 211″ L x 81″ W
Jeep Grand Cherokee: 194″ L x 78″ W
Acura MDX: 198″ L x 79″ W

My friends's 2022 Ford F350 longbed: 266″ L x 80″ W

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Old 02-11-2023, 04:43 PM
 
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I guess now we’re going to rail against the size/dimensions of vehicles instead of weight.
No. We're railing against parking spaces being too small, and the idiots who make them too small.
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Old 02-11-2023, 04:50 PM
 
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I am curious how come garage doors and garages just arn't suited for reality. Driveways as well, always a broken ankal or a back or forward accident waiting to happen.

And why builders give little consideration of providing storage which most everyone especially with kids needs.
Concrete is expensive.

My summer home's garage is 4 car and about 1100 sf.
My winter home's garage is 3 car but about 1250 sf.

I wish the garages were about 1600 sf.


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Old 02-11-2023, 07:35 PM
 
Location: MD's Eastern Shore
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Cars have gotten bigger? More like spaces have gotten smaller. Back in the 70's a full-sized car was pushing 80 inches wide. So were the full-sized trucks and truck-based SUV's of the time. Now, only the trucks and their SUV counterparts are that width. Even "compacts had some width to them.
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Old 02-11-2023, 07:42 PM
 
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Horse and buggy were even bigger back in the days they are like package trucks sized.

It was only the fuel crisis of the 70s that lead to smaller cars, as well as cities that are narrower.

Each residential lot can easily fit 8 cars side by side with doors wide open if we didn't have so many unusable space just for looks or simply lazy to level it. I know that in places like parts of Arizona their lots are flat and can do that.
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