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I appreciate these comments from an expert! I don't think I saw any posts from you on the thread "Reclining seatback....appropriate or rude?" It got a bit heated. And it certainly had people complaining about the tray smashing into them when the person in front of them reclined.
There needs to be an outline of an average height person sitting behind the drawing of the seat. There is no way whatever is setting on the tray would just fall into the floor. There is not enough space between a person's knees and the back of the seat. It might be that way in first class. I've flown on American, TWA, Continental, Southwest and Delta. Anyone who has sat in coach knows the tray doesn't tip to the floor if it is being used. The contents go into a lap unless the tray is caught and not allowed to spill.
I had my tray down and the woman in front of me reclined her seat as much as she could (trying for all the way), jamming the tray into my stomach. She pretended not to hear me feel me tapping her on the shoulder, but by some miracle she heard the flight attendant when I finally got one over to me.
People who have loud conversations, especially if the flight is otherwise quiet (like a red-eye)
People who play their DVD players without headphones
People with headsets on so loud you can hear "tshee-tshee-tshee-thsee-tshee-tshee-tshee..."
People who can't stop talking to you even though you have done everything possible to ignore them
People who go to the lavatory 20 times during the flight because they drank too much...and they booked a window seat...and you are sitting in an aisle seat.
People who drink too much alcohol and think it's appropriate to act like an obnoxious a-hole
People that jam their trash in the seat-back pocket for the next passenger who sits there instead of giving it to the flight attendants who walk up and down the aisle several times with a trash bag
People who take out their frustration on the airline employees because they think the employees write the rules...like as if management would actually ask the employees for their input
People who loudly and continually complain about an airline, as if there is actually an airline that is always on time every flight, actually has comfortable seats in economy, and actually serves gourmet cuisine, etc.
People who dress like they just rolled out of bed (yes, this is rude because people have to look at them)
Well I love flying but I fly no more than twice a year.
What I hate:
1. Children screaming and roaring - like seriously, what are you doing on a plane? Get off!
2. Rude Flight attendants.
3. Flight attendants with stupid rules.
4. Folk putting their chairs back.
1 people who grab onto your headrest when walking up and down the aisle. I get you need support but I shouldnt get whiplash.
2 over night flight. People are trying to sleep. A flight attendant kneels down in the aisle to talk to passengers she knows for a good hour and only moves when other passengers need the aisle. I'd expect that from a clueless passenger but an attendant?
Let me make this very clear. I have 25 years as an airline mechanic. I make my living fixing these seats. I have worked on DC-9's, MD-80's, Fokkers, Boeings, Airbus, and Embraer.
If the seat tray was mounted to the back of the seat, the tray would tip down when the seat was reclined. It would spill everything on the floor.
If you find a crappy airline that mounts trays to the back of a seat, you need to find another airline.
Yeah, you made it clear, but you are Wrong. The tray 'does' move. I'm not over weight. It moves because it pivots, but it does move and it can be very uncomfortable. But then too most of these planes are built to pack people it for more money, they can care less on you comfort.
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Originally Posted by Rubi3
There needs to be an outline of an average height person sitting behind the drawing of the seat. There is no way whatever is setting on the tray would just fall into the floor. There is not enough space between a person's knees and the back of the seat. It might be that way in first class. I've flown on American, TWA, Continental, Southwest and Delta. Anyone who has sat in coach knows the tray doesn't tip to the floor if it is being used. The contents go into a lap unless the tray is caught and not allowed to spill.
First class seats have the seat tray folded up in the arm. They are not attached to any other seat.
Nothing falls on the floor because the trays are mounted on arms, not the seat backs. The tray stays flat when the seat is reclined. It wouldn't do that if it was mounted any other way.
And Al G, I'm not wrong. Reclining the seat does not move the tray.
* Won't let me recline: Once a gang of three behind me intentionally jammed my seat so I can't recline. A flight attendant caught them doing it and set them right.
* Whacks me with their backpack while going down the aisle.
* Hits me in the head with overhead luggage.
With all due respect, that has not been my experience. I have had the tray move noticeably when someone reclined. This has not happened all the time though. It might be that different seats are designed differently in different airplanes.
This si what happened. The tray moved with the seat. I ahve no idea where it was mounted, but when the seat went down so did the tray.
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