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Old 04-13-2014, 01:28 PM
 
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There will be enormous pressure on Malaysia, mostly from the Chinese, to not white wash this thing. They will squirm a lot but in the end I think they will involve outside countries in the analysis of this whole thing, including the black boxes. But it is their decision what to do.
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Old 04-13-2014, 04:12 PM
 
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There will be enormous pressure on Malaysia, mostly from the Chinese, to not white wash this thing. They will squirm a lot but in the end I think they will involve outside countries in the analysis of this whole thing, including the black boxes. But it is their decision what to do.
Let's not count our black boxes before they hatch. The search team still hasn't found anything.
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:18 PM
 
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It is the business of the United States. There was one US citizen on board, that is enough to being in an official interest. Boeing too has a vested interest because if I am not mistaken, they get to see all the data from the data recorders because they warrant the plane to perform, certify the maintenance crews and so on.

It is our business. If it was your son or daughter that was on the plane, surely you would say it was your business too. Is it the business of others? For sure but not their's exclusively.

If the plane is found in International waters, it becomes everyone's business.
There are rules that govern these types of situations. While I would prefer the US to analyze the data as a relatively unbiased third party, that isn't how it works since it is a Malaysian flagged aircraft.
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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Well, you knew it would happen sooner or later....the lawyers are now arguing over rights to the box once it's found.
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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If the black boxes are found, they most likely will be taken to Australia to be analyzed by multiple investigation agencies (AUS, USA, UK, etc). A lot of people will in the room when the first reading is done to make sure it's done right.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:03 PM
 
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Well, you knew it would happen sooner or later....the lawyers are now arguing over rights to the box once it's found.
IF it's ever found. They haven't found the plane yet. I wonder who's paying those lawyers to fight over a hypothetical situation.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:48 PM
 
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What if they find the black box but not the plane? Stranger things have happened.
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Old 04-13-2014, 10:03 PM
 
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Looks like they will be having a news conference shortly, CNN. Looks like FOX will cover it too.

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Old 04-13-2014, 10:39 PM
 
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I think there is some confusion over the rights and so forth regarding the investigation.

While Malaysia has the authority to conduct the investigation, there will be rights asserted to who gets access to the data. This is common in many investigations where one agency performs the investigation but shares the evidence because another jurisdiction has a valid right to the information.

It would be unusual for other involved countries (those with passengers on board that are citizens of those countries) not to have rights to the evidence including the black box data in raw state. That doesn't imply any policeman scenario but it does go to protecting the interests of a countries own citizens (surviving relatives).

While the investigations of the host country (Malaysia) would be the one that is official and carries the final official result, nothing stops another country from interpreting the evidence in a different way especially if those other countries have superior equipment and techniques/technologies to decipher the data.
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Old 04-13-2014, 11:02 PM
 
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They are saying that an oil slick was found near the search site. That is ridiculous. Any oil that might have been from that plane is long gone by now. We know that from the oil spills here. The US navy ship Cesar Chavez just went to/through that area yesterday, where the Ocean Shield and the British HMS Echo are. There's also an Australian warship about 8 hours from the site, moving at about 23 knots.

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