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I don't know all the details but it isn't adding up or settling well with me based on what has been reported so far.
I really hope it was some form of multiple levels of mechanical failure and munitions or fuel exploding. I hate to think it was something more sinister and deliberate.
But airplanes don't just randomly explode at 20,000 feet with no warning.
One story I read there were I think 9 MARSOC operators on the flight including all their munitions. That may play a role in what caused this tragedy.
There were reports of 1 or 2 opened up but empty parachutes found as well. This doesn't add up either.
To further my above point, Just 2 days ago an army aviation guy got arrested by the FBI for pledging allegiance to ISIS and attempting to provide them material support and expressing a desire to kill a lot of people. I truly pray that nothing like this occurs here.
RIP to all the brave souls lost doing their job, and God bless their surviving family members.
I'm definitely following this story waiting for more information so I don't really want to speculate too much until more details are released.
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It was a T-model<>The aircraft hit in a fairly flat attitude, and a witness stated it was spinning and smoking. That could point to some sort of structural failure, but I'll leave that for the mishap investigation board to determine and then we will know, as Paul Harvey used to say, the rest of the story.
Pictures I've seen so far seem to show a fairly big piece of wing and fuselage. Oddly no Mayday call?
FAA and USMC means full report in a year.
Those are super safe acft and can fly forever with few if ever maintenance problems. The Herky-bird. Was on one from Iwakuni to the PI. LOOOOONG droning flight. Also took one from Memphis to Gulfport.
I was just at the NY Air Show and saw this very acft (USMC KC-130T) as a static display. I noticed this model didn't have the engine mod or else it would have 5 blades instead of 4.
We had an F4 that crashed when a flare failed to eject and went off inside the fuselage, severing a hydraulic line which caused total failure of flight controls. It was barrel rolling. The aircrew ejected - thankfully, especially because I was in the ejection seat shop.
The chutes were probably being grabbed hastily and were in different stages of usage but there wasn't enough time. Most cargo acft (all that I know of) have enough chutes for the crew but don't carry chutes for passengers.
Just some musings from an old aircraft maintainer. F4/C141/C5
Pictures I've seen so far seem to show a fairly big piece of wing and fuselage. Oddly no Mayday call?
FAA and USMC means full report in a year.
Throw this in the mix:
"that battalion is assigned to Central Command, which conducts operations in the Middle East, South Asia and Central Asia, including Afghanistan and Iraq."
It's interesting that in the article they speculate about everything except foul play. Given the political climate, I would not expect to ever know the truth.
That's a ridiculous assertion. Most C-130 crashes can be attributed to pilot error. It also flies in a much more hostile environment that most other aircraft. I have over 5000 hours as a C-130 loadmaster and I never worried about the plane failing us.
It's not one thing, it's a chain of things that likely went wrong. Give a thousand monkeys typewriters for a thousand years and they will type Shakespeare's and all that jazz.
Was it the A model by chance? Not sure if those have all been retired yet (retired to firebombing duty that is).
A models have been out of the inventory for about 40 or 50 years. B models were around in the early 90's, but that's when they were phased out. The last time I saw an E model was in Afghanistan in 2006, and they were 44 years old at the time. The KC-130 that crashed was built in 1993.
I was just at the NY Air Show and saw this very acft (USMC KC-130T) as a static display. I noticed this model didn't have the engine mod or else it would have 5 blades instead of 4.
The six bladed prop is not a modification. It was designed for the J model, which is the current production model, which uses a Rolls Royce engine, as opposed to the Allison T56-A-15. I'm not aware of any plans to retrofit earlier models with the six blade or the Rolls Royce engine.
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