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Old 08-06-2018, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Thinking about when I was in training in the Army. On breaks in the field, we all had to pick up the butts and field-strip them, even if we didn't smoke, ourselves. One more reason for me to disdain smokers.
I worked at a water treatment plant years ago with a Vietnam vet who was a smoker. One day while the boss was running down a list of things he wanted worked on when we had time, he asked where all the cigarettes on the ground outside the doors coming from. He pretty much directed the question at the vet because he was the only smoker who worked there and we really didn't have any visitors. He said "I don't know, but it's not me! I always field strip my butts and put the filter in my pocket, they beat that into me in the Army!"

Maybe they did, but the habit had worn off by that time because every time he walked in the door he took a final drag and flipped the butt into the grass.
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Old 08-06-2018, 10:41 AM
 
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Don’t airports also have to follow local anti-smoking laws? Some cities have made it so there’s no smoking inside virtually all businesses including bars and casinos.

Besides the smoke, what I hated about the era of smoking allowed anywhere in airports were the inconsiderate people who would cause damage with their cigarettes, cigars, and lighters. They burned holes in furniture upholstery and carpet, they left burn marks on toilet seats, they used their lighter to make burn marks on walls, and their left their butts all over the floor. This was a financial drain on building maintenance trying to keep up with the damage they caused. As for planes, I would never fly on a plane that allowed smoking. In 1990 I was stuck on a 12 hour flight from Philly to Saudi Arabia. Plane was all military flying to Saudi to get ready for Desert Storm. Once behind a certain distance from the coast the smoking light was lit and boy did they light up. What we weren’t told was none of us would be allowed to leave the plane for any reason until we reached Saud Arabia. Even the most addicted smokers slowed down on their smoking after a few hours. Having a non-smoking section on a plane was like having a non-smoking section in a FIAT.
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Old 08-06-2018, 10:54 AM
 
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Because smokers only care about themselves and have no issue with second hand smoke impacting non smokers lives.

If I could I would ban smoking in all public locations.

Same. Nuff said
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Old 08-06-2018, 10:56 AM
 
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There wouldn't be so many butts on the ground if there were ashtrays out there. Do you people want smokers to toss a lit cigarette into a trash can?
It's your mess. YOU deal with it. Just like dog owners are expected to scoop the poop, you will just have to police your own butts.
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:24 AM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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So it's not surprising to me (but still sad) that the government wants to make life even more miserable for the inmates and prohibit them from smoking. A segregated smoking section in an airport harms no one except the feelings of people who want to control other people.
It's amusing that you're whining about governmental intrusion ... all the while demanding that the government use public funds to create special areas for addicts to indulge themselves.
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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I used to fly when people were allowed to smoke. Ugh. Filthy habit to be around. Secondhand smoke is hard on everyone’s lungs. So your idea of fun is smoking and drinking from your own bottle on a packed flight for hours at a time? Really?
I think he or she is trolling.. surely no one would be that daft to post that way... he or she is getting what they wanted... attention.
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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To me it seems like the psycho authoritarians types for some reason get to have airports as there private playgrounds to screw with people. Flying used to be fun, BYOB no problem and a smoking section even on the planes but now everything has gone stupid for some reason.
Trolling or just ignorant.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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Don’t airports also have to follow local anti-smoking laws? Some cities have made it so there’s no smoking inside virtually all businesses including bars and casinos.
In many cases, the indoor smoking bans are at the state level.

There may be a carve out allowed if you're going to have a special smoking lounge with closed doors and its own ventilation system like you get at the ATL. But one factor in not getting many of those is the desire to run the government-owned airports like a business- a smoking lounge does not generate revenue for an airport authority and actually costs more because of the HVAC and additional cleaning/maintenance costs. If you allocate that same space to another Hudson News, a sandwich shop, or expanded seating so the gate next door can hold enough passengers for a 777 departure, you can get rent from the company you lease that precious airport space to instead of havign to deal with the cost of hosting the smokers.
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Old 08-06-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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OP mentions BYOB on planes. I don't remember that one, maybe he could elaborate.

There's nothing to stop you from BYOB on an airline as long as it fits in the quart Zip Lok bag and the container is the proper size. If you're not getting totally trashed and are discrete about it, I doubt any flight attendant would care.


I'm trying to think of airports north of the Mason-Dixon line where you can smoke anywhere in the terminal. Vegas has smoking lounges with slot machines. That's all I can come up with. Certainly not in any of the New England airports I use.
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Old 08-06-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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There's nothing to stop you from BYOB on an airline as long as it fits in the quart Zip Lok bag and the container is the proper size. If you're not getting totally trashed and are discrete about it, I doubt any flight attendant would care.


I'm trying to think of airports north of the Mason-Dixon line where you can smoke anywhere in the terminal. Vegas has smoking lounges with slot machines. That's all I can come up with. Certainly not in any of the New England airports I use.
Actually bringing your own alcohol aboard is against policy for most airlines.
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