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This is unrelated, but I find it interesting and don't want to start a new thread. We can imagine what the cockpit on that MU5735 may have looked like . 6 captains fly the first 747-8 of Air China to Beijing
Are you thinking that because there were 6 pilots aboard on the first 747-8 flight, that this must be normal for Chinese airlines? Perhaps they only had so many because it was the first experience with a big complex plane and they wanted to accelerate learnings through the staff by having others on board with a chance to observe?
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New safety incentives(?): Just a friendly reminder from CAAC... (One would hope 'whistle-blowing' for safety concerns would be encouraged and protected throughout this industry. )
China Seeks Informants To Improve Aviation Safety
"It is of great necessity that we fully mobilize the vast number of frontline personnel - for them to be willing and dare to be a safety' whistle blower', which would also be crucial in reversing the current unfavorable situation and maintain the stable operations of the industry safety," wrote CAAC in Thursday's statement.
...CAAC has assured that whistleblowers will be rewarded and have their identities protected through confidentiality agreements.
the accident (21 MAR) was the first fatal accident in the country for over a decade, bringing an end to 100 million flying hours without a major civil aviation accident.
Flight data from the doomed plane suggests someone in the cockpit pushed the Boeing 737-800 into a “near-vertical†descent while cruising at a high altitude in late March, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing sources familiar with US officials’ preliminary assessment.
“The plane did what it was told to do by someone in the cockpit,†one source close to the matter told the Wall Street Journal.
In the suicidal flgiht by First Officer on Egyptair 990 Oct. 31, 1999, after the captain re-entered the cockpit discovering what's happening, the descent decreased for a moment, probably by the captain's effort. This is similar to the China Eastern's brief leveling off and climbing before plunging down again, most likely a struggle at the control. In the Germanwings 9525 case, the captain was locked out of the cockpit, so no struggle.
In the suicidal flgiht by First Officer on Egyptair 990 Oct. 31, 1999, after the captain re-entered the cockpit discovering what's happening, the descent decreased for a moment, probably by the captain's effort. This is similar to the China Eastern's brief leveling off and climbing before plunging down again, most likely a struggle at the control. In the Germanwings 9525 case, the captain was locked out of the cockpit, so no struggle.
Flt. 990 crash was caused by competing rudder movements, which I think ultimately led to structural failure, if memory serves. That backs up your scenario.
In this crash, apparently Yang Hogda was downgraded from Captain, and perhaps just took revenge. Flt. 990 was definitely murder/suicide, even though Egypt denies this.
According to rumours in China the pilot wrote on his suicide note that he lost all his money in Evergrande's default. Take it with a massive grain of salt though.
Flt. 990 crash was caused by competing rudder movements, which I think ultimately led to structural failure, if memory serves. That backs up your scenario.
In this crash, apparently Yang Hogda was downgraded from Captain, and perhaps just took revenge. Flt. 990 was definitely murder/suicide, even though Egypt denies this.
There may be even more similarities between the two crashes. According to wikipedia about the F/O of the Egyptair 990:
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Investigators learned from another pilot that Al-Batouti was supposedly reprimanded for repeated inappropriate behaviour with female guests at the Hotel Pennsylvania, a New York City hotel often used by EgyptAir crews. Hatem Roushdy, the EgyptAir official said to be responsible for the alleged reprimand, was a passenger on Flight 990. Investigators confirmed that shortly before the flight, Roushdy revoked Al-Batouti's privilege of flying to the United States and informed him that Flight 990 would be his last on the route.
Are you thinking that because there were 6 pilots aboard on the first 747-8 flight, that this must be normal for Chinese airlines? Perhaps they only had so many because it was the first experience with a big complex plane and they wanted to accelerate learnings through the staff by having others on board with a chance to observe?
This is strictly a photo op. Notice two of the guys are standing. Wide body airliners generally have 4 functional seats, 5 if there's a Flight Engineer station. Narrow bodies like the 737 have 2 seats, and a "jump seat" that is only suitable for deadheading crew members and observers. Observers being those on a familiarization flight, a check airman, or a representative from the appropriate governmental regulatory authority. The third seat is rendered as a non-crew member position, without any means of assuming control of the aircraft, other than physically unseating either the Captain or FO.
The 737 cockpit would require extensive modification to accommodate more than 2 crew members.
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