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Initial Investigation from the US is saying that there was nothing wrong with the plane and that the yoke had to be manually pushed forward to put the plane into such a nosedive. In essence, it was intentionally crashed.
The Chinese will push back on that due to being shamed that one of their pilots would do that.
And because of the extensive training and vetting their pilots undergo.
The Chinese will push back on that due to being shamed that one of their pilots would do that.
And because of the extensive training and vetting their pilots undergo.
Yeah, it has all the earmarks of suicide by plane....but China will never admit to it.
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The Chinese will push back on that due to being shamed that one of their pilots would do that.
And because of the extensive training and vetting their pilots undergo.
The article (as I read) was careful to not implicate a pilot (As will I, barring any definitive info (Which could come via CVR))
Initial Investigation from the US is saying that there was nothing wrong with the plane and that the yoke had to be manually pushed forward to put the plane into such a nosedive. In essence, it was intentionally crashed.
Pilot might have had a flashback to his time working in the Apple slave mfg facility. No safety nets though.
Mass murder and suicide. Rare but there is a history. And as said previously China will never make this public. Those poor innocent people and their loved ones.
"yoke pushed forward" doesn't necessarily mean suicide.
Now, I believe in the US, this couldn't happen due to regulations, but, 2 pilots.. First one hops up and turns the controls over to the other pilot so he can run to the bathroom. All is well.. pilot in the cockpit has a massive coronary, slumps forward pushing the yoke forward (Something of a stretch, he'd be strapped in which should prevent this)
The part that still, no matter what, makes no sense to me here is the temporary recovery. How does that happen? Or, am I reading too much into that? I am reading it as nearly recovering before plunging again..
No situation that I can think of makes sense here other than the suicidal pilot becoming non-suicidal before becoming suicidal again. Which makes.. No real sense.
Or, pilot A is incapacitated.. Pilot B goes into the nose dive.. Pilot A recovers, incapacitates pilot B, recovers the plane, at which time Pilot B recovers and whacks pilot A again.. and.. That's a real reach there.
that recovery just throws a wrench into everything. I'd like to know exactly how much of a recovery it was.
"yoke pushed forward" doesn't necessarily mean suicide.
Now, I believe in the US, this couldn't happen due to regulations, but, 2 pilots.. First one hops up and turns the controls over to the other pilot so he can run to the bathroom. All is well.. pilot in the cockpit has a massive coronary, slumps forward pushing the yoke forward (Something of a stretch, he'd be strapped in which should prevent this)
The part that still, no matter what, makes no sense to me here is the temporary recovery. How does that happen? Or, am I reading too much into that? I am reading it as nearly recovering before plunging again..
No situation that I can think of makes sense here other than the suicidal pilot becoming non-suicidal before becoming suicidal again. Which makes.. No real sense.
Or, pilot A is incapacitated.. Pilot B goes into the nose dive.. Pilot A recovers, incapacitates pilot B, recovers the plane, at which time Pilot B recovers and whacks pilot A again.. and.. That's a real reach there.
that recovery just throws a wrench into everything. I'd like to know exactly how much of a recovery it was.
The Chinese will push back on that due to being shamed that one of their pilots would do that.
And because of the extensive training and vetting their pilots undergo.
There's no way to know if one of the pilots did it, or if someone pushed their way into the cockpit and did it. Or there could have been a crew member or pilot-in-training in the jump seat, who did it.
If we're being technical. There was one pilot. There were two co-pilots.
There has been nothing that i've seen that the second co-pilot was considered part of the crew and was in the cockpit. I've kinda taken that to mean that he might have been jumpseated or similar.
Anytime the crew has been discussed, it's just been the pilot, Yang Hongda and co pilot Zhang Zhengping
So.. I'm not.. Certain that the 'other' co pilot was any form of active crew on this flight. I could always be wrong.
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