Random attacks at Tiki Lee's (Baltimore: condo, crime rate, college)

[uggabugga]

i was thinking about checking this place out. probably not a good idea.

As the Anne Arundel County 23-year-old and others headed to wait for an Uber, about eight or 10 people who had been fighting inside started raining punches on him and others out of nowhere, then kicking him and others after they fell to the ground during a chaotic scene in the 4300 block of Shore Road, Wolford’s relatives said.

Each time Wolford tried to stand, they said, the assailants kicked him again in the face.

He wasn’t the only one; two other people were injured in the incident, according to Baltimore County police. No arrests or suspects have been announced.

“The whole road just looked like a mob went through it,” Parsons said. “People were just knocked out on the side of the road.”

http://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland...619-story.html

poor guy will be drinking his meals through a straw for the next two months.

edit- additional coverage

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/...int-bar-sunday

[Joakim3]

It was a bunch of drunk people at a bar... and a brawl broke out. Happens in every major city, every weekend lol

[pappjohn]

Regardless the people that injured others should be rotting in jail. Seems nobody ever gets punished other than victims near Baltimore.

[uggabugga]

Originally Posted by Joakim3

It was a bunch of drunk people at a bar... and a brawl broke out. Happens in every major city, every weekend lol

read it again. people were peacefully leaving a bar, and were attacked by several others who had been kicked out for fighting.

[Joakim3]

Originally Posted by uggabugga

read it again. people were peacefully leaving a bar, and were attacked by several others who had been kicked out for fighting.

I did.... I just put things into context rather then over-react.

I've routinely gone to bars/clubs in well over 15 major metro's at this point from the most post push it be up-scale establishments all the way to the local spots that barely fit 20 people. This stuff happens every weekend in every major city where there is an active and healthy nightlife/bar/club scene. Am I condoning this type of behavior? Never in a million years. I'm calling it as I see it. People got drunk, fought, got kicked out and like 99% of drunk people who get kicked out of a bar, immediately started **** with people outside and inevitably more fights ensued.

Alcohol + overcrowded establishments + little/none police presence due to location = this

[uggabugga]

Originally Posted by Joakim3

I did.... I just put things into context rather then over-react.

I've routinely gone to bars/clubs in well over 15 major metro's at this point from the most post push it be up-scale establishments all the way to the local spots that barely fit 20 people. This stuff happens every weekend in every major city where there is an active and healthy nightlife/bar/club scene. Am I condoning this type of behavior? Never in a million years. I'm calling it as I see it. People got drunk, fought, got kicked out and like 99% of drunk people who get kicked out of a bar, immediately started **** with people outside and inevitably more fights ensued.

Alcohol + overcrowded establishments + little/none police presence due to location = this

i don't think you did. making up your own false premise is not putting anything into context.
peaceful customers leaving an establishment being attacked is not a 'brawl breaking out.'

https://www.facebook.com/paige.parso...75256639175870

[LesLucid]

Yeah, fights happen at bars in every city. In Baltimore, per capita violent crime rate means you have a better chance of being a victim than almost any other city in the country. I avoid Baltimore because I don’t gamble.

[Joakim3]

Originally Posted by uggabugga

i don't think you did. making up your own false premise is not putting anything into context.
peaceful customers leaving an establishment being attacked is not a 'brawl breaking out.'

https://www.facebook.com/paige.parso...75256639175870

There was a brawl in the bar...... they all got kicked out.... and unfortunately started fighting/harassing people leaving outside.

Again I'm not condoning their behavior. But we are talking about people who were drunk off their ass and then started fighting/attacking/harassing people because they got kicked out of a bar.

Do you know how many times I've been in some high-end bar on DuPont Circle or U-Street in DC, some college frat boys start a big ass fight, get kicked out of said bar and then immediately started fights with people outside on the street minding their own business because they're drunk and butt hurt. Would you like me go on about my experiences in NYC or Vegas or L.A?

If you think this exclusively happens in Baltimore; reality check it doesn't. I'm not making up a false premise, you are.

[uggabugga]

Originally Posted by Joakim3

There was a brawl in the bar...... they all got kicked out.... and unfortunately started fighting/harassing people leaving outside.

Again I'm not condoning their behavior. But we are talking about people who were drunk off their ass and then started fighting/attacking/harassing people because they got kicked out of a bar.

Do you know how many times I've been in some high-end bar on DuPont Circle or U-Street in DC, some college frat boys start a big ass fight, get kicked out of said bar and then immediately started fights with people outside on the street minding their own business because they're drunk and butt hurt. Would you like me go on about my experiences in NYC or Vegas or L.A?

If you think this exclusively happens in Baltimore; reality check it doesn't. I'm not making up a false premise, you are.

where did i even remotely imply this was only happens in Baltimore?

nowhere.

these were attacks, not ‘fights’.

On June 16, after midnight, Tiki Lee's security removed a group that had started a fight in the bar, police determined.

After the group left, they walked up Shore Road and continued assaulting random people, said police.

Officers found several people lying injured on the ground. Numerous victims were identified, and at least two of them needed medical treatment, said police.

Davvaughn William Howard, 22, of Benkert Avenue, is charged with three counts of first-degree assault and four counts of second-degree assault, reported Baltimore County police today.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/...sparrows-point

[james777]

He came all the way from West Baltimore to cause trouble in Sparrows Point.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/...sparrows-point

Behavior such as this is highly unusual, even in areas where there are plenty of bars/taverns in the city or suburbs.