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Old 10-30-2015, 09:56 PM
 
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KC has the momentum. Thor better throw some kind of pitches today to win or at least stay even.

If Matz gets NY even, the Dark Knight will roll, too..Game 4 is pivotal for both now.
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Old 10-30-2015, 11:29 PM
 
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Congradulations to the Mets. That was a very good victory for you. I will say for anyone who watched that game you should now know what the term yosted means. For me everything Ned did in that game was the wrong thing to do at the wrong time to do it. He had the chance early on to if not have the Royals win that game at least keep it close throughout. Ventura should have been pulled much earlier. I have no idea why he chose to use Mondesi, a AA rookie to pinch hit. And why he thought it would be a good idea to use F. Morales, the left hand specialist who doesn't do well against right handed hitters, against right handed batters is another mystifying move. He had Syndergaard on the ropes early and totally let him get comfortable for the middle innings. I hope Ned didn't blow the series there as I was always more worried about Matz as the Royals don't seem to hit lefties very well and getting back to even will be a huge lift for the Mets. Its still 2-1 Royals but now the momentum is all with the Mets.
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Old 10-31-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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Niese and Matz left hand pitching be good against the Royals. It's time to Believe in Matz!
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Old 10-31-2015, 01:52 PM
 
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Congradulations to the Mets. That was a very good victory for you. I will say for anyone who watched that game you should now know what the term yosted means. For me everything Ned did in that game was the wrong thing to do at the wrong time to do it. He had the chance early on to if not have the Royals win that game at least keep it close throughout. Ventura should have been pulled much earlier. I have no idea why he chose to use Mondesi, a AA rookie to pinch hit. And why he thought it would be a good idea to use F. Morales, the left hand specialist who doesn't do well against right handed hitters, against right handed batters is another mystifying move. He had Syndergaard on the ropes early and totally let him get comfortable for the middle innings. I hope Ned didn't blow the series there as I was always more worried about Matz as the Royals don't seem to hit lefties very well and getting back to even will be a huge lift for the Mets. Its still 2-1 Royals but now the momentum is all with the Mets.
Absolutely correct! Good points. Ned has been doing some very questionable things like this for awhile now. But if anyone knows why the Royals really win (their unbelievable ability to rally, their bullpen), then they'll know that that all covers for Ned's gamely mistakes.

Kudos to Syndergaard! Though he may have given up a few runs, he set the mentality that no other pitcher nor team has yet done. From that very first pitch, he brushed Escobar off the plate. Putting an end to that ridiculously allowed streak of first pitch hitting. Even Royals radio talk show annalists were praising him for doing that. It's baseball! Intentionally hitting batters will never be baseball, but intentionally brushing hitters off of the plate will and should always be. And so many pitchers today are afraid of doing what he did.
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Old 10-31-2015, 02:36 PM
 
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Absolutely correct! Good points. Ned has been doing some very questionable things like this for awhile now. But if anyone knows why the Royals really win (their unbelievable ability to rally, their bullpen), then they'll know that that all covers for Ned's gamely mistakes.

Kudos to Syndergaard! Though he may have given up a few runs, he set the mentality that no other pitcher nor team has yet done. From that very first pitch, he brushed Escobar off the plate. Putting an end to that ridiculously allowed streak of first pitch hitting. Even Royals radio talk show annalists were praising him for doing that. It's baseball! Intentionally hitting batters will never be baseball, but intentionally brushing hitters off of the plate will and should always be. And so many pitchers today are afraid of doing what he did.
While I agree that it was a good baseball move to get Eskobar off the plate ultimately it wasn't really all that effective. The Mets were close to pulling Syndergaard in the second inning when the Royals took the 3-2 lead. What was more costly was Ventura's ineffectivness and Ned's failure to recognize his drop in velocity and get him out early. After that Ned's rediculous moves of pinch hitting Mondesi and bringing in Franklin Morales to pitch to right handed batters were just too much for the Royals to overcome. I simply don't understand Ned's mindset going into that game. That game should have been seen as the most crucial game of the series. The Mets were on the ropes and ready to be knocked out despite playing at home. Ned managed the game as if it were a throw away game instead of the crucial psychological turning point game it was. Even if the Mets did win the game keeping it close instead of letting it turn into a blowout would have kept the doubt in their minds. Letting it get to blowout status put the minds of the Mets players in a far more favorable frame for the rest of the series.
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:28 PM
 
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Thank you Mets' sterling defense and bad base running. The Royals take a 3-1 lead in the series, grabbing all the momentum back and once again taking a lead off the Mets closer. There has to be great doubt now back in their heads. Can they win 3 in a row with the last two in KC? Can they trust their closer? Can they trust their bull pen? Do their starters have to pitch a complete game every time out to stand a chance of victory? Can they trust their defense for nine innings? Do they have to play a perfect game to beat these Royals? Can they play three perfect games in a row?
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:34 PM
 
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I think this is over. Mets had to sweep these 3 in New York to give themselves a chance. I think they could've won one game in KC, but I can't see them winning both games in KC which is what they'll have to do now. Who knows, maybe they'll prove me wrong again, but I have a feeling this has a better chance of ending tomorrow night then the Mets have at winning in 7.
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:36 PM
 
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Thank you Mets' sterling defense and bad base running. The Royals take a 3-1 lead in the series, grabbing all the momentum back and once again taking a lead off the Mets closer. There has to be great doubt now back in their heads. Can they win 3 in a row with the last two in KC? Can they trust their closer? Can they trust their bull pen? Do their starters have to pitch a complete game every time out to stand a chance of victory? Can they trust their defense for nine innings? Do they have to play a perfect game to beat these Royals? Can they play three perfect games in a row?
The Murph play was terrible, but Clippard's ineffectiveness set it up. Murph was wrong in that he clearly was not conceding play at 2nd yet basesd on how he ran in. I wanted to see him lower to ground and moving slightly to his right conceding it would be 2nd and 3rd, 2 down.

If you call last play bad base running, you are wrong. It was a catch 22. If Ces clings to 1st, alert 3rd baseman lets ball slide out of glove, 5-4-3 game ender.
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Old 11-01-2015, 05:33 AM
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Thank you Mets for reminding me why I stopped watching you when I still lived in the NY area. The Mets will stop at nothing to prevent them from disappointing their fans.

The only consolation I have is that there are few Yankee fans here to remind me how inept the Mets can be.
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Old 11-01-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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Thank you Mets for reminding me why I stopped watching you when I still lived in the NY area. The Mets will stop at nothing to prevent them from disappointing their fans.

The only consolation I have is that there are few Yankee fans here to remind me how inept the Mets can be.
Decades long Met fan, saw Seaver pitch.

Not disappointed in 2015 in this team at all.

We are ahead of what I estimated, as I thought WS, was 2016 at earliest.

make no mistake, KC is super, and through 4 games, outplaying us.

But 2015 has rocked for Orange & blue, and 2016-2018 will be even better as nucleus stays intact.
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