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Heat tickets always sellout. People exaggerate how bad Miami fans are. Either way, Miami is a young team. There was no market in Miami until the late 80's. Back then, there were more transplants going to Heat games than there were Miami residents. Now alot of the youngins and folks my generation, are the 1st generation of REAL Heat fans. As the Heat win more championships, fandom will grow, and the Heat will gain fandom from all over the US(ala the Bulls in the Jordan years) Miami is a young franchise.
Did he seriously try to say LA is above everybody else? Wow.
I'm pretty sure New York would disagree with that, just to name one. Where was the love for the Clippers back in the day? That's what I thought.
I guess I should make my list of Top 10 NBA CITIES as well...
1. NYC
2. Boston
3. L.A.
4. Chicago
5. Philly
6. San Antonio
7. Portland
8. Oakland
9. Dallas
10. Sacramento
NOTES:
- Would have Detroit on here because it is a great all-around sports city. However, basketball seems to be behind Football, Baseball, and Hockey, not necessarily in that order.
- Would have Seattle on the list as well, but I only marked cities who currently have a team.
- OKC is... arguable. They would be up there, I guess.
- Any list with Miami on it, regardless of what sport it is, shouldn't be taken seriously. Same goes for Atlanta.
What about Highschool football? Miami and Atlanta would whoop any cities buts in High-School football.
Let me say this. San Antonio has been a playoff/finals contention team for the past 14yrs. It's easy to praise a city for their fandom and for selling out, when that city's team has been a contender for nearly 2 decades. Miami has actually had pitiful years when they've only won 15 games all seasons in the last 5yrs(07'-08' when Dwade had the shoulder injury, than surgery).
Let's see the Lakers attendance POST-Kobe. The Lakers have also been contenders since Shaq went West in the mid-90's , and when Kobe was drafted in 1996. The Lakers have NEVER gone 10yrs as a non-contender. When Magic retired in 92, they probably went 5 or 6yrs at most, as a bottom of the barrel team. Some of these only have the fans they have, because they've been in contention for so damn long. OKC hasn't been around long enough to see the ups and DOWNS(I'm talking REAL downs) of a franchise. Ever since they moved from Seattle to OKC, they've had blessed assurance in Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook.
Let's see some of these teams in the next decade or so. Let's see San Antonios attendance numbers once TD, Ginobili, and Parker retire. Did Boston sell-out before the big 3 and Rondo? Did Boston sellout when it was only Paul Pierce? I'm not saying they didn't sellout, but I don't know if they did. Correct me if I'm wrong.
San Antonio is a small market because it sprawls out to get its population. Houston is a legitimately big city. LA is a legitimately big city. Dallas is in between, and Dallas only works as a market because they've won a lot.
- I'm just gonna look past what you said about the Bay Area. I don't even remotely know how to respond to that.
- San Antonio is a small market because there are 2 million people in the metro area. Not 5 or 6 million. Not 10 or 20 million. Just 2. Sprawling out has NOTHING to do with it. If what you're saying about sprawl had anything to do with market size, than L.A. would be the smallest market in the country.
- Houston and L.A. are big cities just like San Antonio. They're also in bigger metro areas, which is why they're seen as big markets. L.A. much more than Houston.
- "Dallas only works as a market because they've won a lot".... WTF? Won a lot of what? In basketball? If that's what you mean, than it's just straight confirmation you don't know what you're talking about. Either that or you're just trolling. I could believe both. And Dallas is a big market because it shares its metro with Fort Worth, giving the DFW area over 6 million people. THAT'S why it's a big market.
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The markets where basketball works are markets where the cities are densely populated and where there is a lot going on. It's very possible for large cities to not currently be good basketball markets because they don't engage the city the way they should (Philadelphia comes to mind, as does Chicago). The small markets like Millwaukee, Sacramento, Indianapolis, etc can only work when the city becomes populated again and the profile of the city is raised. NBA franchises require a thriving downtown and a city that has a largely populated core, which St. Louis does not right now.
Stop insulting me and get a clue. I'm sick and tired of it. Make it your point with facts or shut your mouth.
I know, I was joking. Either way, this post still sands
Let me say this. San Antonio has been a playoff/finals contention team for the past 14yrs. It's easy to praise a city for their fandom and for selling out, when that city's team has been a contender for nearly 2 decades. Miami has actually had pitiful years when they've only won 15 games all seasons in the last 5yrs(07'-08' when Dwade had the shoulder injury, than surgery).
Let's see the Lakers attendance POST-Kobe. The Lakers have also been contenders since Shaq went West in the mid-90's , and when Kobe was drafted in 1996. The Lakers have NEVER gone 10yrs as a non-contender. When Magic retired in 92, they probably went 5 or 6yrs at most, as a bottom of the barrel team. Some of these only have the fans they have, because they've been in contention for so damn long. OKC hasn't been around long enough to see the ups and DOWNS(I'm talking REAL downs) of a franchise. Ever since they moved from Seattle to OKC, they've had blessed assurance in Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook.
Let's see some of these teams in the next decade or so. Let's see San Antonios attendance numbers once TD, Ginobili, and Parker retire. Did Boston sell-out before the big 3 and Rondo? Did Boston sellout when it was only Paul Pierce? I'm not saying they didn't sellout, but I don't know if they did. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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- I'm just gonna look past what you said about the Bay Area. I don't even remotely know how to respond to that.
- San Antonio is a small market because there are 2 million people in the metro area. Not 5 or 6 million. Not 10 or 20 million. Just 2. Sprawling out has NOTHING to do with it. If what you're saying about sprawl had anything to do with market size, than L.A. would be the smallest market in the country.
- Houston and L.A. are big cities just like San Antonio. They're also in bigger metro areas, which is why they're seen as big markets. L.A. much more than Houston.
- "Dallas only works as a market because they've won a lot".... WTF? Won a lot of what? In basketball? If that's what you mean, than it's just straight confirmation you don't know what you're talking about. Either that or you're just trolling. I could believe both. And Dallas is a big market because it shares its metro with Fort Worth, giving the DFW area over 6 million people. THAT'S why it's a big market.
Good lord. There's just so much in this that's either backwards or just wrong.
And no one is insulting you. But I will say that you wont be here that long. I can tell...
Of course you will, because nobody can admit the Bay Area is as non-existent as the "DMV".
No, it's a small market because its roughly 1 million people are sprawled out in hundreds of square miles. Its metro is only a PART of the equation. Plenty of non-sprawled out cities have small metros yet are larger cities than San Antonio. Except LA and Houston are actually filled out. Wow, looks like I refuted what you said.... again.
San Antonio is not a big city, and metro size has nothing to do with the NBA. Plenty of big cities aren't good NBA markets.
Dallas isn't a big market. It's in between big and mid-sized. Also, I suggest you look at the history of the damn team before you spout off at the mouth like a typical casual fan. Dallas is just now becoming more of an NBA market (well okay more like the past 5-10 years) because the downtown of the city keeps building itself up.
Refute it or shut your trap. Enough yapping.
That's funny because it's all you've been doing despite not having a clue what you're talking about. Won't be here that long? That's fine, I'll still be more respected than you at this ish in the real world. Guarantee you can't lace 'em up against me.
Of course you will, because nobody can admit the Bay Area is as non-existent as the "DMV".
No, it's a small market because its roughly 1 million people are sprawled out in hundreds of square miles. Its metro is only a PART of the equation. Plenty of non-sprawled out cities have small metros yet are larger cities than San Antonio. Except LA and Houston are actually filled out. Wow, looks like I refuted what you said.... again.
San Antonio is not a big city, and metro size has nothing to do with the NBA. Plenty of big cities aren't good NBA markets.
Dallas isn't a big market. It's in between big and mid-sized. Also, I suggest you look at the history of the damn team before you spout off at the mouth like a typical casual fan. Dallas is just now becoming more of an NBA market (well okay more like the past 5-10 years) because the downtown of the city keeps building itself up.
Refute it or shut your trap. Enough yapping.
That's funny because it's all you've been doing despite not having a clue what you're talking about. Won't be here that long? That's fine, I'll still be more respected than you at this ish in the real world. Guarantee you can't lace 'em up against me.
Like I said before, I can't tell if you're completely going off base or just trolling, but I can believe both.
Either way, believe what ya want. Wont matter.
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