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Top 10 based on Rings + Impact And Victory in Finals
1 ) Jordan
2 ) Bill Russell
3 ) Kareem
4 ) Magic
5 ) Kobe
6 ) Shaq
7 ) Duncan
8 ) Larry Bird
9 ) Wilt Chamberlain
10 ) Hakeem
Top 10 just based on Players that led their team to the most title's
1 ) Bill Russell 11
2 ) Jordan 6
3 ) Kareem 6
4 ) Magic 5
5 ) Kobe 5
6 ) George Mikan 5
7 ) Duncan 5
8 ) Shaq 4
9 ) Larry Bird 3
10 ) Lebron 3
Top 10 based on skills, No rings at all
1 ) Jordan or Kobe
2 ) Kobe or Jordan
3 ) Allen Iverson
4 ) Tracy Mcgrady
5 ) Kevin Durant
6 ) Steph Curry
7 ) Prime Derrick Rose
8 ) Lebron James
9 ) Dwayne Wade
10 )Prime Vince Carter
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Originally Posted by slo1318
^^^Everything is fine, but your last list is garbage!!
Lebron is Lonzo favorite player so he shouldn't be bias for Kobe just because he's a Laker.
Not everyone thinks Kobe is better than Lebron and that's fair enough but it still stands that the majority of the all time greats and fans across the world say Kobe > Lebron
Scottie Pippen
Shaquille
Reggie Miller
Shamar moore of all people lol
Kenyon Martin
Stephen Jackson
Mark Jackson
Charles Barkley
Russell Westbrook
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Durant
Dwayne Wade
Magic Johnson
Kenny Smith
Larry Bird
Micheal Jeffrey Jordan
Lebron won 5 states while Kobe won the rest of the states in America.
Athletes are always given more respect after they retire, just like artists and musicians after they die. Lebron is better, possibly the second-best player in history (though I still say Kareem), because of how drastically he transforms every team he is on. Every Lebron team becomes an instant title contender because of his presence alone. He took a team with Larry Hughes as its second-best player to the Finals. He also is the reason (with Kyrie's help) the Cavs came back from 1-3 to win a championship. Kobe, as great a scorer and defender as he was, didn't see the Finals til Shaq joined the Lakers. They even missed the playoffs after he left, before the Gasol/Artest/etc additions helped bring them back to prominence. Kobe was obviously an all-time great but he was not the all-around force that Lebron is now.
Lebron is Lonzo favorite player so he shouldn't be bias for Kobe just because he's a Laker.
Not everyone thinks Kobe is better than Lebron and that's fair enough but it still stands that the majority of the all time greats and fans across the world say Kobe > Lebron
Scottie Pippen
Shaquille
Reggie Miller
Shamar moore of all people lol
Kenyon Martin
Stephen Jackson
Mark Jackson
Charles Barkley
Russell Westbrook
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Durant
Dwayne Wade
Magic Johnson
Kenny Smith
Larry Bird
Micheal Jeffrey Jordan
Lebron won 5 states while Kobe won the rest of the states in America.
Still selling the same ol BS.
I've already debunked your entire list.
#FactCheck
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Originally Posted by Natural510
Athletes are always given more respect after they retire, just like artists and musicians after they die. Lebron is better, possibly the second-best player in history (though I still say Kareem), because of how drastically he transforms every team he is on. Every Lebron team becomes an instant title contender because of his presence alone. He took a team with Larry Hughes as its second-best player to the Finals. He also is the reason (with Kyrie's help) the Cavs came back from 1-3 to win a championship. Kobe, as great a scorer and defender as he was, didn't see the Finals til Shaq joined the Lakers. They even missed the playoffs after he left, before the Gasol/Artest/etc additions helped bring them back to prominence. Kobe was obviously an all-time great but he was not the all-around force that Lebron is now.
Athletes are always given more respect after they retire, just like artists and musicians after they die. Lebron is better, possibly the second-best player in history (though I still say Kareem), because of how drastically he transforms every team he is on. Every Lebron team becomes an instant title contender because of his presence alone. He took a team with Larry Hughes as its second-best player to the Finals. He also is the reason (with Kyrie's help) the Cavs came back from 1-3 to win a championship. Kobe, as great a scorer and defender as he was, didn't see the Finals til Shaq joined the Lakers. They even missed the playoffs after he left, before the Gasol/Artest/etc additions helped bring them back to prominence. Kobe was obviously an all-time great but he was not the all-around force that Lebron is now.
KOBE DIDN'T SEE THE FINALS UNTIL SHAQ JOINED THE LAKERS ? IM CONFUSED BY THAT STATEMENT LOL
KOBE CAME INTO THE LEAGUE AS A 17/18 YR OLD KID THE SAME YEAR SHAQ WAS TRADED TO THE LAKERS.SO HOW COULD KOBE GO TO THE FINALS IF SHAQ WAS IN THE LEAGUE BEFORE HIM ?
I THINK YOU MEANT TO SAY SHAQ DIDN'T WIN ANY TITLES UNTIL HE GOT WITH KOBE !! HOW MANY TITLE'S DID SHAQ WIN WITHOUT KOBE VS HOW MANY KOBE WON WITHOUT SHAQ ? IF ANYTHING KOBE WENT TO 3 STRAIGHT FINALS AND WON BACK TO BACK TITLES WHILE BEATING DUNCAN AND THE SPURS AND THE BIG 4 SUPER TEAM OF THE 08 - 10 CELTICS
NOW FAR AS LEBRON TAKING BUM TEAMS TO THE FINALS,
DIDN'T ANOTHER GUY JUST SAY A FEW POST AGO THAT DUNCAN × KOBE X MALONE MAKE THE FINALS ALL THOSE TIMES TOO IF THEY'RE PLAYING IN THE SAME WEAK EASTERN CONFERENCE LEBRON HAS PLAYED IN ?
LET'S BE HONEST, LEBRON DOESN'T WIN ANY TITLE'S WITHOUT TEAMING UP WITH WADE,BOSH & ALLEN PERIOD
OUT WEST, HE DOESN'T GO TO 7 STRAIGHT FINALS -
HENCE HIS FINALS RECORD.
HE'S A ONCE IN A LIFETIME TALENT BUT TO ME HE DOESN'T EVEN RANK OVER SHAQ AND DUNCAN !! DUNCAN TEAMS BEAT HIS TEAMS DOWN IN THE FINALS SO THAT GOTTA COUNT FOR SOMETHING.
[quote=rigas;49167899]Still selling the same ol BS.
I've already debunked your entire list.
#FactCheck
You mean you sat up all night looking for answers on Google to make yourself feel better ? Why Is this debate even that serious to you ?
Because Jordan and many other greats said Kobe > Lebron and nationwide poll results you've decided to go on and on about it page after page like a Troll !!!
Why not the same energy for your Dirk vs Garnett debate ?
Its pretty obvious you TROLL whenever Kobe is brought up
Get out your feelings
Either way its still Jordan > Lebron ,Do you wanna argue that as well ? Or is it just Kobe that triggers you lol
Jordan is basically Kobe with the Mvps & Stats anyway
But to make you feel better and leave me alone I'll gladly say Lebron > Kobe from now on lmao
Lol oh my god , just stop it! I don't know what's worse, your Lebron hate or Kobe fandom...
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