American Indian/Hawaiin Culture (2013, centers, health)

[McFrostyJ]

Originally Posted by Jonah K

I guess that it all boils down to the "animal nature" of human beings and competition over seemingly limited resources. When folks discuss the "traditional values" of Native Hawaiians, they conveniently leave out that the fact that "warfare" was one of them...

Very true. Do you think there will ever be a point where humans will evolve past this? With the world becoming smaller and smaller due to technology, will we eventually realize that we are all one people living on a relatively small rock or will we become even more animalistic fighting for what we know are limited resources?


(I'm hoping you have a crystal ball.)

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by McFrostyJ

Very true. Do you think there will ever be a point where humans will evolve past this?

It has already been predicted - Check out Star Trek - The Next Generation.

[Dreaming of Hawaii]

How about "Soylent Green"? "Lord of the Flies"? Just to name a couple.

OOOOPS, I think we're getting off topic

[JoDan]

Very interesting and thought provoking article on the origins of Native Americans...mayb less connection to Asia than first thought. Something to consider....hmmmmmmm.

"Great Surprise"

[OpenD]

Originally Posted by JoDan

Very interesting and thought provoking article on the origins of Native Americans...mayb less connection to Asia than first thought. Something to consider....hmmmmmmm.

"Great Surprise"

Notice that article is a year old, and in the field of genetics that's like 7 "dog years."

Here's a different study, published 3 months later that claims...

Earliest American Genome Proves Siberian Origins of Native Peoples

The sequencing of DNA from the earliest known North American remains has provided the first genetic confirmation of Native American ancestry, quashed a controversial alternative theory and hinted at possible migration patterns that may revise our understanding of population dispersal from modern-day Alaska to the southern tip of Chile.

Whew. Pretty impressive achievements for a baby.

Researchers today announced the successful whole-genome sequencing of Anzick-1, the remains of an infant boy who lived roughly 12,600 years ago. The remains were discovered in central Montana in 1968 during a construction project. Anzick-1 was a crucial find for archaeologists even before scientists completed the DNA analysis — the child’s remains are the oldest known burial in North America and the only human remains ever found that are definitively associated with the Clovis people, the continent’s first known indigenous culture.


East Asian Origins Confirmed

Anzick-1′s DNA allowed researchers to confirm genetically, for the first time, that all native peoples of North and South America descended from ancestors who arrived via land bridges from East Asia, possibly in a single migration. While there has been ample archeological evidence of the East Asian origin of Native Americans, conclusive proof based on DNA had been absent until now. Even a recent study comparing the genes of ancient Siberian remains with those of modern Native Americans had not been as conclusive.

The sequencing of Anzick-1′s genome, however, revealed the child was part of a line that was directly ancestral to 80 percent of all American native peoples, and close cousins to the remaining 20 percent.

In addition, analysis of the child’s mitochondrial DNA indicated Anzick-1 belonged to what’s known as the D4h3a haplogroup, or lineage. The finding is important — and surprising, according to researchers — because the D4h3a line is considered to be a “founder” lineage, belonging to the first people to arrive in the Americas. Although rare in most Native Americans in the U.S. and Canada today, D4h3a genes are found more commonly in native people of South America, far from the Montana cliff beneath which Anzick-1 was laid to rest.

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Earliest American Genome Proves Siberian Origins of Native Peoples - D-brief | DiscoverMagazine.com

[JoDan]

Maybe National Geographic and Discover are trying to sell magazines.

[KaraBenNemsi]

The cultural connections btw Native AMericans and Hawaiian natives are evident in the annual PowWow in Hilo. And before one ridicules it, consider that the PowWow has a $1 mil positive economic impact on Hilo.

The physical connections and contacts of pre-Cook Hawaii are still being discovered. Polynesian skulls were found on an island right off the coast of Chile. Inca masonry construction is evident on Easter Island. Genetic material of South American natives is still present in the native Easter Island/Rapa Nui population. The Haida, a seafaring population of Haida Gwai/Charlotte Islands, Canada have similarities in language and culture with Polynesians. The sweet potato came from South America to Polynesia. The jury is still out if the Polynesians brought chickens to America. A bunch of words in Western Native American languages are very similar or identical to Polynesian words.

Aside that, both cultures were still rooted in stone age technology, but with respective sophisticated nature observances and necessary societal structures resulting from what was possible and what was not. That may appear as 'similarities' to us today, but is to be expected.

[JoDan]

KaraBenNemsi:The cultural connections btw Native AMericans and Hawaiian natives are evident in the annual PowWow in Hilo. And before one ridicules it, consider that the PowWow has a $1 mil positive economic impact on Hilo."

I've attended many Native Peoples Festivals in Cherokee, NC, put on by the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. They always have native groups participating from Hawaii and Alaska. I"m not sure if they're trying to imply a genetic connection, or simply a celebration of native peoples who've had their land confiscated. It's always an opportunity to learn more of the respective cultures and I've been impressed by their restraint in lambasting those who confiscated their land.

[oregonwoodsmoke]

There is a great similarity between the artwork of the Hawaiian Polynesians and the Native Americans of the Pacific Northwest. It would be an awfully strange coincidence if there weren't some cultural exchange.

There is a lot of evidence that the Polynesians made it to South America. Perhaps not to settle, but at least for trade and adventure. The Polynesians were a culture of exploration. If they made it to South America, it isn't a big stretch to see that a people who made such long journeys by water might also make the long water journey to North America

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by oregonwoodsmoke

There is a great similarity between the artwork of the Hawaiian Polynesians and the Native Americans of the Pacific Northwest. It would be an awfully strange coincidence if there weren't some cultural exchange.

Do you have any source material on the pre-western contact?