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Old 07-01-2015, 11:06 PM
 
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You guys are cracking me up!

The noise I could learn to live with. Afterall, it is ag land. I just have a moral issue with it but I guess it's my own personal problem. I do worry a little about property values too.

I have seen these 'show birds' operations in person (next to a property) and on google maps. You can't miss them. I didn't even think about the possible hog farms too. We might consider getting more land for more of a buffer.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:39 PM
 
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While we were on the Big Island in October of 2013 we went for a walk through upper side Na'alehu and got to see rooster fighting right out in the front yard of someone's house. There were between 10 and 20 people watching and betting.
It broke my wife's heart.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Don't say you can live with the noise until you have lived next to a rooster. Those things start crowing at 3am and keep crowing until 2am. It's like having a dog in the next yard barking 24/7.

In California, it's illegal to fight roosters, but it's not illegal to raise fighting roosters. Go figure.
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Old 07-02-2015, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Southernmost tip of the southernmost island in the southernmost state
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Ah, the roosters are all right. We have a few chickens and one of em' turned out to be a bit less chicken-y. But We raised him from a chick amd he is now the wife's pet. Sure, the crowing starts early, but you get used to it pretty quickly. Ours is actually one of the Red Jungle Fowl variety that came over with the Polynesians. He seems a lot better of temperament than the Rhode Islands I had growing up. Hawaii is chicken paradise, if you live here, you better get used to them, heck, they even populate the landscaping down at Costco.
Sad to see them being raised for fighting, but hopefully that societal shift to where it's less tolerated will come over time.
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Old 07-02-2015, 02:28 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the Kona coffee fields
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I have seen and heard the fighting roosters in various Big Island post offices when shipped to other islands. Totally legit apparently. Most of them are considered not 'good' for more than 2-3 fights. But then again, it is legal in our state to breed dogs in tiny cages and then eat them.

PETA to the rescue, I say.
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Old 07-03-2015, 01:39 PM
 
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A chicken is a pet, and a very nice one at that. A rooster is a huge PITA!

Pretty sad and cruel "sport", and I am 100% against it, but you won't get very far campaigning to stop it. The awareness is just not there. You would do better by talking to the bird about that.
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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Well, roosters are gonna fight even if people are watching or not. If they'd not put those metal spurs on them, then it wouldn't be much different from two roosters meeting up where ever. Although, generally one rooster will decide he's beaten and run away usually pretty quick when it's just a pair of roosters in the yard.
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Old 07-03-2015, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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A chicken is a pet, and a very nice one at that. A rooster is a huge PITA!

Pretty sad and cruel "sport", and I am 100% against it, but you won't get very far campaigning to stop it. The awareness is just not there. You would do better by talking to the bird about that.
For many folks, chickens are "livestock." Hens lay eggs and keep the coqui frog and centipede populations down, while extra roosters that are lousy at fighting are good to use for "hulihuli chicken." If one knows where to look, dogfights can still be found in Hawaiʻi as well, even though they were outlawed in 2011…
Isle dogfighting law gains teeth - Hawaii News - Honolulu Star-Advertiser
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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Rooster and dog fighting for entertainment and financial gain is such a sad statement about humanity. It is also sad that we have to look away because it is so accepted and ingrained within the culture. I understand that dog over breeding is also an issue on the island.
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Na'alehu Hawaii/Buena Vista Colorado
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Tons of stray dogs and cats all over the island. There are free spay and neuter clinics, but it's hard to get people to take their animals to get fixed. We have a rescue dog and just about every one I know has one, too. It is very sad, but we're not going to change the way people choose to live. We just do our best to help the ones who can't speak for themselves.
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